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Author Topic: Incorruptible/Irredeemable Crossover/End  (Read 853 times)
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« on: February 22, 2012, 09:46:40 PM »

So, I've been behind on my Incorruptible and had given up on Irredeemable, because the stories had seemed sort of stale.

But I decided, what with the crossover and the announcement that both titles would end, that I'd give this whole thing a try. And, after reading it, I find I'm very happy that Mark Waid is ending it.

I didn't despise it or anything. It was just that Waid took lots of shortcuts/retcons that he generally tended to avoid earlier in the series.

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They telegraphed Max and Tony's childhood meeting pretty hard early in the crossover, and it seems like Max remembered the meeting fully AFTER he got his powers but BEFORE he turned good, which puts a weird spin on his "conversion" story. After all, originally the story was that he changed when he saw the awesome guy that was the Plutonian become the horrible guy. Now, MD knows Tony can be horrible. He saw him be the "Wolf Boy." So how was it some kind of surprise?

Since when can Qubit travel through time? It seems like this skill would have been pretty helpful in many earlier cases.

Qubit says, when he appears to Tony at the end of the crossover, that he deserves "a second chance." Hasn't Tony had MANY chances at this point? He could have changed when they brought Alana in. He could have changed one of the times Qubit tried to talk to him. He could have changed when he talked to him at the prison planet. Max and Qubit coming in at the end just seems like out-and-out idiocy. After all, the title of the book is "Irredeemable" right?

But it seems like Waid just sort of slammed the door in the face of the crossover. I mean, the climax was just a lot of exposition followed by the silliness of his visitation at the end.
Waid may have known the Plutonian's origin from the beginning, but the crossover read like it was being made up as it was going along.

Was I the only one who thought this?
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 05:18:29 PM »

So what is currently available of these two titles in graphic novel form?

How are they divided?

When might I expect to be able to buy the last of the graphic novels if earlier issues are already available in that format?
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 05:32:24 PM »

Amazon has all that info.

And Wikipedia has a solid list of both titles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredeemable

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorruptible

But you should be able to check out a few digital comics to see if they are worth buying.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 06:06:28 PM »

you should be able to check out a few digital comics to see if they are worth buying.

Do you think they are?
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 06:12:19 PM »

you should be able to check out a few digital comics to see if they are worth buying.

Do you think they are?

I honestly do not know. I recall reading the first Irredeemable and not liking it enough to get the next one. I hear good things though.

If I'm spending my money on a Mark Waid comic anytime soon it will be on his latest Daredevil trade. But that's sort of off topic, sorry Wink
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 06:17:41 PM »

Yeah, you should be sorry. No one ever goes off-topic around here.  Tongue

Looking at the wiki, it appears there are currently 8 volumes of Irredeemable. Seems like more money than I'll likely spend.

Astonishing X-Men #1-#24 (plus the giant size) was collected in only 4 volumes. Plus I'd rather buy Morning Glories.

But I think I'll add this to my list of graphic novels I want to own. Maybe someone will buy me one for my birthday.

That's August 15th, by the way.

My mailing address is...
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