X-Men Schism

[Gaumer]

Maybe it will be an arc where they reveal their undying love for each other and the last panel will be a make out scene....you know that would explain a lot.

Only in the fan fiction. *sigh* Only in the fan fiction.

[Navarre]

David and Maddie went that route on "Moonlighting".

The sexual tension between Scott and Logan had to break sometime.

... It was never about Jean, really.

[Alisha Mynx]

Maybe it will be an arc where they reveal their undying love for each other and the last panel will be a make out scene....you know that would explain a lot.

Only in the fan fiction. *sigh* Only in the fan fiction.

Or "What If?" or "Summer Alternate Reality Event 2011 #134" or...  Stuff like those that happen frequently but usually hold no consequence in the real Marvel U.  

[Navarre]

Stuff like those that happen frequently but usually hold no consequence in the real Marvel U.  

Isn't that pretty much everything?

[Alisha Mynx]

Stuff like those that happen frequently but usually hold no consequence in the real Marvel U.  

Isn't that pretty much everything?

Not quite everything, but pretty close to it these days.

[Navarre]

I smell a new thread here.   

[Gaumer]

I smell a new thread here.   

You should put it in General because more than just Marvel tell stories that mean nothing.

Its more of a 'pick and choose' for the publishers. They can use this story or that story or element or...anything really and tell the story they want to tell. I think that's a good thing for the industry overall as it takes chains off of the creators to have to stay in 70+ years of history.

I think we've had this discussion: f'uk continuity.

Meaning something to other pieces doesn't make or break a good book.

[Navarre]

Well, I'd already posted it. Maybe Rodrigo can move it if he thinks it works better in the General category (renaming it too I guess...so I'll have to edit my first post, and....*sigh*)

[MaximusRift]

I think what we're seeing here is a meta-battle between two different X-fan contingents, which makes me think again that the creators are missing the point.  I don't know that Wolverine would work any less as leader than any other given X-Men.  It all depends on the writing, for me.

If I divorce my feelings from the question, I agree to a certain degree. I can see Logan as the Sergent but not the General. In other words; I can see him leading X-Force but not the X-men as a whole. I also feel that the creators get the point in a most cynical way. The point being "Both sides will buy it on the off chance to rub the result in the others face. Stupid Fanboys..." ;p

[Michael]

I think what we're seeing here is a meta-battle between two different X-fan contingents, which makes me think again that the creators are missing the point.  I don't know that Wolverine would work any less as leader than any other given X-Men.  It all depends on the writing, for me.

If I divorce my feelings from the question, I agree to a certain degree. I can see Logan as the Sergent but not the General. In other words; I can see him leading X-Force but not the X-men as a whole. I also feel that the creators get the point in a most cynical way. The point being "Both sides will buy it on the off chance to rub the result in the others face. Stupid Fanboys..." ;p

Especially as "Leader of the X-Men" these days translates into "Leader of Mutantkind" as well.

[Gaumer]

Exactly, and that's where this event becomes important. The X-Men aren't the same team with the same goal as they were before. Before House of M they were a sort of good-will ambassador team, doing good deeds to be an example of an entire race to the world.

But now they are a group fighting for the existence of that entire race.

Leading the mutants means more to the mutants than it ever has before.


What happens after has gotten more interesting



The image is important if its showing who will be where.

Emma on Wolvie's shoulder isn't the only thing; we got Gambit and Magneto on the other side as Rogue; and I see Lockheed hanging out in there, always promising.

Psylocke and X-23 on Scott's side is also a surprise since Psylocke is kicking it with X-Force right now and X so looks up to Logan.

Prof. X split down the middle is also a bit telling.

Got to say I'm fairly excited for a X-Men shake-up that, this early on, looks to really make some moves.

[MaximusRift]

The image is important if its showing who will be where.

Emma on Wolvie's shoulder isn't the only thing; we got Gambit and Magneto on the other side as Rogue; and I see Lockheed hanging out in there, always promising.

If you look to the right, Kitty and Colossus are also there.  At least one X-Couple is being preserved.

Also, it's a big step down for Rouge to go from an X-Leader to Logan's lackey. 

Psylocke and X-23 on Scott's side is also a surprise since Psylocke is kicking it with X-Force right now and X so looks up to Logan.

Prof. X split down the middle is also a bit telling.

Got to say I'm fairly excited for a X-Men shake-up that, this early on, looks to really make some moves.

Not me.  Marvel has run my trust dry.  All I see is a gimmick that will quickly be replaced by another gimmick even if it reads well. Also, I have no interest whatsoever in a title that has the same name as a cartoon that wasn't good enough to come back to Nick Toons. 

[Gaumer]

meh, I'm a nowist. I don't really mind if things don't persist and its just a quick gimmick. Nothing is going to be like that or feel like things like that used to be so...I read what's fun and keep my long-term memory at bay and enjoy things as they come. I think anyone who wants to enjoy comic books has to be that way to some extent or another. I'm not sure if its simply the status quo or the final evolution of a medium with so many decades of concurrent storytelling.

But, oh well, that's different sit and whittle.


The Prelude to Schism has been sort of okay; Cyclops-centric stuff was never really my bag but its been more about the current tone of the X-Men form the perspective of their leader; it being in the shadow of some unknown baddie on the horizon has given a bit of mystery but that's fallen a bit flat...probably because I'm not getting my hopes up that its going to something not lame "See above" I guess

[SpiderLover]

When it comes to anything nostalgia kills. Comics weren't better when I was a kid, I was just a kid. Cartoons weren't better when I was a kid, I was just a kid. We get into these absolutes about things, and I'm kind of with Gaumer. I'm living in the now, if I enjoy something I buy and support it. I don't try to compare this to what I saw 10 years ago.

[Navarre]

Cartoons weren't better when I was a kid, I was just a kid.

You mean Scooby-Doo was never clever? How about when they'd unmask the "monster" and find out it wasn't the creepy caretaker at all but that kind old man in town?

... hmmm, yeah. I guess that is a little more suspenseful when you're nine, huh?