X-Men Schism

[Gaumer]

Okay, we got Cyclops vs Wolverine. I don't care about who would win, because I honestly don't think either of them are going to.

I think what we have here is a build up of Scott as the leader doing the right thing, and Logan the leader doing the wrong thing, but all for the same reasons.

It reminds me of another set of mutants, Charles and Eric.

So what I think is going to happen here is a complete 360 and we have Prof X and Magneto back rocking the shit.

Or maybe its just that I dislike Scott and want to see Magneto on X-Force.

[Navarre]

I could see the Prof and Mags rolling back in. But Scott seems to have gained fans since Joss made him interesting and capable.

[Slappy]

We already had Cyclops vs. Wolverine.
In the short term, Scott won, but in the long term both lost.

[Gaumer]

I could see the Prof and Mags rolling back in. But Scott seems to have gained fans since Joss made him interesting and capable.

Well, that was 5+ years ago. Since then he's made some very unpopular decisions and seems to be turning into the exact thing he hated on Charles so much for.

Same with Wolvie and X-Force. It was terrible when he was the tool being used (that's a cheap joke if you go that way) to do dirty things that needed done but its okay if he's doing it for HIS reasons. Looks just like Magneto's road.

[Navarre]

Are you saying Charles, Magneto, Scott, and Logan are all dicks?

[Gaumer]

Are you saying Charles, Magneto, Scott, and Logan are all dicks?

Damn...I guess I am.

[Navarre]

It's a rough line that the mutant titles are more likely to take than other Marvel titles. X-Men has always been ready to show us some unpleasant sides of our "heroes".

Yet, at the same time, people don't want to read about someone they don't understand or respect. Understanding may be something the writers are giving us.

Will we still respect the characters' actions though? I guess we'll see.

Personally, I think it's a clear sign all four should step down and let someone full of integrity, with a brilliant mind and lots of experience, lead the team.

No. Not Hank...

[Tondi-]

I think Kitty is coming back...AS THE HERALD OF GALACTUS!

PS: Kitty is still flying through space in a giant bullet right?

[Navarre]

LOL Nope, she's back.

She's hanging around with the X-Men again these days, waiting for the jerks to eliminate themselves so she can become the team's rightful leader.

[The Mighty King Cobra]

I think what we're seeing here is a meta-battle between two different X-fan contingents, which makes me think again that the creators are missing the point.  I don't know that Wolverine would work any less as leader than any other given X-Men.  It all depends on the writing, for me.

That said, I'm not intrigued enough by 'Schism' to jump back into the X-Men deep end.

[Navarre]

I guess the entire comic reading process is meta in that we know it is contingent on the writer. Any character only thinks, acts, and reacts as the writer presents them.

We hope for consistency but it is usually impossible to tell. We would know something is wrong if a character started acting dramatically out of character but, even then, it is still canon. If we are given a story arc that explains the character's actions then we are suddenly required to believe that this is the way that character perceives and acts based on what is happening.

So, seemingly, a writer could give us anything and the burden of acceptance falls on us. Even if we gripe that the writing was poor or something seemed out-of-character, it nonetheless is in character because we are reading the issue in question.

So then I think sometimes comic writers throw out anything they want that will sell an issue, forcing the characters to meet the desired result. I suppose with fictional people it can never be any better than that, whether we like it or not.

... and I don't, by the way.

[Tondi-]

I'd like to see mo-hawk storm back as leader.

[Gaumer]

That said, I'm not intrigued enough by 'Schism' to jump back into the X-Men deep end.

I'm not too sure this event is supposed to be highly attractive to new X-readers, but is rather a culmination of a few years worth of stories. This, as I have theorized, will take the X-verse full circle with Prof. X and Magneto being given the larger leadership roles they used to occupy, which would then lead to the proper jumping on/returning point for those new/dejected readers.

I think those who have been reading the X-books for the past few years should get a pretty big payoff, but those who are ignorant of the past few years of X-stories probably won't even know what is going on and should skip it.

As far as creators putting two fan contingents against each other, I contend that the two characters have been butting heads for decades and the fan contingents were made from that. Schism is just another chapter of the struggle between the two characters. Not saying that's a good or bad thing, just being fair.

This isn't Hogan vs the Rock in 2006; its Hogan vs Andre the Giant in 2006. The implied forcing of a conflict by the creators is just not accurate if the two characters have been at it for decades, right?

[Navarre]

The implied forcing of a conflict by the creators is just not accurate if the two characters have been at it for decades, right?

Right.

My earlier statements were general statements toward how writers shape characters; not so much this story. Everyone knows Scott and Logan have a long and difficult history.

They should just grow up or separate completely. But I guess good conflicts make for good stories.

[Tondi-]

Maybe it will be an arc where they reveal their undying love for each other and the last panel will be a make out scene....you know that would explain a lot.