X-Men First Class

[greyman24]

Still a significant stretch. Look, the reality is that everyone has his own capacity for suspension of disbelief. But regardless of how many twists and turns you want to go through to justify it, the film is just NOT consistent with the other movies. You may be fine with that. If you are, great.

Here's a short list. Googling will net you even more.

• Hank McCoy first appears in X-Men 2 in his non-furry form. He must have found some very temporary cure that has made him revert back to blue fur by X3. By the way, in X2, he looks AWESOME for a 60 year-old man.
  
  
• In the original trilogy, it's stated that Magneto and Prof X built Cerebro together. In First Class, it's Beast.
• When Mystique is "cured" in X3, she turns into a brunette, not a blonde.
• Prof X is WALKING to see Jean Grey in the flashback in X3. Unless they pull something silly like fix him after his paralysis at the end of First Class only to paralyze him again, that doesn't make sense. I know that happens a lot in the comics, but, remember, these are the movies. Comics continuity does NOT apply.
• Prof X is also WALKING in Wolverine.
• Prof X and Magneto must have a horribly codependent relationship. At the end of First Class, they're sworn enemies. Yet, at some point they must decide to hang again in order to visit Jean Grey in X3.

[Alisha Mynx]

• Hank McCoy first appears in X-Men 2 in his non-furry form. He must have found some very temporary cure that has made him revert back to blue fur by X3. By the way, in X2, he looks AWESOME for a 60 year-old man.

I wondered about that appearance before First Class, since the furry Beast of X-3 seemed as if he had been so for a very, very long time.  I wondered if the TV Hank McCoy was perhaps an Image Inducer like they used in the 90's, or like Nightcrawler used in "X-Men: Evolutions".  That could also explain his relative youth if he is indeed the same Hank from First Class (even though I've stopped thinking of them as the same movie universe). 

[Gaumer]

Still a significant stretch. Look, the reality is that everyone has his own capacity for suspension of disbelief. But regardless of how many twists and turns you want to go through to justify it, the film is just NOT consistent with the other movies. You may be fine with that. If you are, great.

Here's a short list. Googling will net you even more.

• Hank McCoy first appears in X-Men 2 in his non-furry form. He must have found some very temporary cure that has made him revert back to blue fur by X3. By the way, in X2, he looks AWESOME for a 60 year-old man.
  
  
• In the original trilogy, it's stated that Magneto and Prof X built Cerebro together. In First Class, it's Beast.
• When Mystique is "cured" in X3, she turns into a brunette, not a blonde.
• Prof X is WALKING to see Jean Grey in the flashback in X3. Unless they pull something silly like fix him after his paralysis at the end of First Class only to paralyze him again, that doesn't make sense. I know that happens a lot in the comics, but, remember, these are the movies. Comics continuity does NOT apply.
• Prof X is also WALKING in Wolverine.
• Prof X and Magneto must have a horribly codependent relationship. At the end of First Class, they're sworn enemies. Yet, at some point they must decide to hang again in order to visit Jean Grey in X3.

Good finds. It appears that you are in fact correct.

Although, since First Class comes, wait for it, first yet out of order, X-Men First Class is a retcon of the movies that "follow" it.

So the movies that follow aren't consistent with First Class

[SpiderLover]

For me I just separate this with the previous three movies. Why because as you said it wouldn't make sense, I went into the movie saying this to me is a different universe.

[greyman24]

For me I just separate this with the previous three movies. Why because as you said it wouldn't make sense, I went into the movie saying this to me is a different universe.

That is very wise.

Although, since First Class comes, wait for it, first yet out of order, X-Men First Class is a retcon of the movies that "follow" it.

So the movies that follow aren't consistent with First Class

Ah, yes. Good point. This would be one of those few cases where the "inconsistent sequels" are MILES better than the "original."

Oh, and, while I hold X3 to be nowhere near a "standard" for anything (except sub-standard story-telling), Beast's make-up was SIGNIFICANTLY better. That's not a continuity thing for me. It's just taste.

[Alisha Mynx]

Oh, and, while I hold X3 to be nowhere near a "standard" for anything (except sub-standard story-telling), Beast's make-up was SIGNIFICANTLY better. That's not a continuity thing for me. It's just taste.

Agreed, the visual portrayal of Beast in X3 was absolutely amazing, where I found the visual portrayal of Beast in First Class to seem a tad on the side of...   I'm really not sure, I just didn't like it as much. 

Although I wonder if any of that might also be the face of the actor on which the makeup was applied. 

[Gibralter]

Oh, and, while I hold X3 to be nowhere near a "standard" for anything (except sub-standard story-telling), Beast's make-up was SIGNIFICANTLY better. That's not a continuity thing for me. It's just taste.

Agreed, the visual portrayal of Beast in X3 was absolutely amazing, where I found the visual portrayal of Beast in First Class to seem a tad on the side of...   I'm really not sure, I just didn't like it as much. 

Although I wonder if any of that might also be the face of the actor on which the makeup was applied. 

It was the Bendis Beast. (and Bendis Emma for that matter) There I said what everone was thinking. I for one couldn't stand his run on X-men. (varing milage and all that) I liked First Class for most part. At parts it seemed a little rushed, Magneto's heel turn at the end for one. The cameos where a high point.

[Gaumer]

Oh, and, while I hold X3 to be nowhere near a "standard" for anything (except sub-standard story-telling), Beast's make-up was SIGNIFICANTLY better. That's not a continuity thing for me. It's just taste.

Agreed, the visual portrayal of Beast in X3 was absolutely amazing, where I found the visual portrayal of Beast in First Class to seem a tad on the side of...   I'm really not sure, I just didn't like it as much. 

Although I wonder if any of that might also be the face of the actor on which the makeup was applied. 

It was the Bendis Beast. (and Bendis Emma for that matter) There I said what everone was thinking. I for one couldn't stand his run on X-men. (varing milage and all that) I liked First Class for most part. At parts it seemed a little rushed, Magneto's heel turn at the end for one. The cameos where a high point.

Bendis has only written Ultimate X-Men, AFAIK. So how would anyone be thinking that?

[Gibralter]

Bendis has only written Ultimate X-Men, AFAIK. So how would anyone be thinking that?

I was mistaken it was Grant Morrison.

[Gaumer]

Bendis has only written Ultimate X-Men, AFAIK. So how would anyone be thinking that?

I was mistaken it was Grant Morrison.

Ouch. Big mistake

NP. I figured you couldn't possibly have been making a reference to Ultimate X-men. Never has there been a book with such talent that has sucked so hard.


Beast? Maybe. I can see that being taken a bit from that New X-Men run.

But the Emma in the movie felt more like the back seat Emma we saw when the Hellfire Club first hit but pre-Hellions.

Still, I hate comparing shit like that. Its hard to do in the context of it being a comic book movie and comparing the movie to comic books, but, if they are baking a comic book movie and all of the comic books are spices, they get to pick and choose to such an extreme level that its almost impossible to make a comparison. Yes, my meatloaf and my pumpkin pie both have cinnamon in the recipe, but comparing them is unfair.

Taking all of the movies together is a bit more fair, and this series fails on several levels in that context.

[Navarre]

The important thing to remember: We have meatloaf!

As these movies were made by the same studio, I wonder which movie they would/will most closely try to match for sequels?

My guess would be First Class.

[Gaumer]

The important thing to remember: We have meatloaf!

As these movies were made by the same studio, I wonder which movie they would/will most closely try to match for sequels?

My guess would be First Class.

My guess is Wolverine: Origins

But if I have to choose between the old X-Men and the new X-Men, X-Men first class WILL get more movies.