Worst Comic Retcon

[MOSDEF]

DO IT!!!

[Stacy B.]

As much as I dislike the Spider-Man farce, I have NEVER understood the whole Legion reboot. Even with the Hero Histories, I have problems understanding it.

[MaximusRift]

I disagree.  While the reset was a bad, the characters never acted OOC or were diminished by the reset.

"One More Day" diminishes Spider-Man as a hero, making his creed ("With great power, ...") sound as hollow as a tin can. At least to me, Peter is characterization is real off.

[Katzedecimal]

I have to disagree as well.   Crisis on Infinite Earths and John Byrne's Man of Steel dealt the classic Legion continuity a critical blow, from which it was having trouble recovering.   First they tried "nothing to see here, nothing changes, all stays the same" route with the Pocket Universe.  Then the editors created new situations to inspire the LOSH in the first place (L.E.G.I.O.N, Valor), so they had to create characters to fill in the gaping holes (Kent Shakespeare, Laurel Gand, The Durlan/R.J. Brande) and blame it on Glorith.  Then it got all angsty and dark and depressing (foreshadowing 90s comics in general, more's the pity) and nobody was happy, so they brought in the Batch SW6 troupe, and they started heading off in directions that were starting to contravene their own continuity...  It was getting to be a huge mess.   The Zero Hour reboot brought the LOSH continuity into line with the L.E.G.I.O.N and Valor continuities in the 20th century, streamlined the team, and brought back the freshness.  It made sense again.  Yes, there were an awful lot of changes that were "done for the sake of doing it" (like Sensor, oy vey) but I never found the characters to be OOC from the way they'd been before (unlike Threeboot...)  But for the most part, the post-ZH LOSH retained its integrity within the now-mostly-straightened-out DCU continuity.  (unlike Threeboot... how does Valor work now?  Is Stealth still an ancestress of Brainiac 5?  However, since the DCU is busy sprocking up its continuity again, I'm more inclined to ask "do I even care anymore?"  )

"One More Day" strikes me as one of those "done for the sake of doing it" changes.  AFAIK, there was nothing terribly sprocked up with the Spider-Man continuity that required such a drastic overhaul.  Not too good.

[Stacy B.]

"One More Day" diminishes Spider-Man as a hero, making his creed ("With great power, ...") sound as hollow as a tin can. At least to me, Peter is characterization is real off.

I agree.

"One More Day" strikes me as one of those "done for the sake of doing it" changes.  AFAIK, there was nothing terribly sprocked up with the Spider-Man continuity that required such a drastic overhaul.  Not too good.

I agree.

But I understand the "stated" status and "supposed" purpose of OMD & BND. Spider-Man is Peter, he is in our present time, he is not married etc. I may not like the changes, and personally I don't, but I can pick up a random issue and still not be lost, much.

The Legion reboots are different, to me. We went from happy go lucky teenage kids in the future, to dark adults in the future, to dark and gritty outlaw/police in our time to whatever.... I never have understood it and I feel that even the writers where not completely sure of what has been going on. How else can you explain the multiple re-boots? Why bother to understand and work with when you can wipe clean and start over.

I get what Katz and Maximus are saying, but the Legion reboots are the most confusing to me.

[schleicher12000]

The only thing that makes sense for all the legion reboots is this - they are from the future, and as event happen in our present, those actions ripple to the future, altering/rebooting those future characters. 

"now stephen," you say, "if that were the case, then there would be a legion reboot every couple of months".

Perhaps, dear forum member, perhaps.  Or perhaps it takes a convergence of major events to alter future time drastically enough to cause a reboot.

[davek]

Correct my ignorance (and I'm not trying to sound snarky), but did any of the LEGION retcons received the sort of press blitz and editorial staff-heavy-handed-push that OND has?

[schleicher12000]

My impression has always been that Legion is one of those quiet titles, that get rebooted and no one notices until way after the fact.

[Katzedecimal]

"now stephen," you say, "if that were the case, then there would be a legion reboot every couple of months".

Uh, I... I think that's happening 

I agree with Stacy B. about why bother to understand and work with when you can wipe the slate clean, particularly with regards to  Threeboot and OMD.  It seems to be a symptom of people (readers as well as writers) not wanting to exercise their brains anymore.

[MaximusRift]

Perhaps the question is misleading. I can see where LoSH reboot is confusing, but OMD sucks way more to me.

Confusing doesn't have to mean worse and vice-versa.

[MOSDEF]

im sorry jacin b, please dont be mad at me. i just couldnt find a title for this poll that would work more, but one more day sucked balls to me competely also and it is very confusing also, whats up with spiderman and the rest of marvel continuity???

[MaximusRift]

Um... who's mad?

[MOSDEF]

i was being sarcastic. typing sarcasm is a little harder than actually doing it.

[davek]

There's probably a dirty joke in there, but I shan't look for it.