Spider-Man: The Marvel Batman?

[Armaan]

I've always thought of Spidey as the Marvel Superman, actually - raised b good people. I mean, as far as the strength of the heart goes, and the earnestness of it... An minus the powers and WORLD responsibility, of course.

[Blackthunder01]

I always thought Captain America was the Superman equal.  All about the American way, up holds traditional values, beloved by the people...

[Navarre]

I agree that Captain America and Superman are largely counterparts. Both are representative icons of virtue, even for other heroes.

I don't think Spider-Man and Batman are as closely related, but apparently enough for discussion.

[Larry King]

I feel that Superman and Spiderman are more alike thank Supes and Captain America. Superman was groomed to be the Man of Steel, by him being sent from a literal world that was dying to one that was dying from a lack of morals. Being raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent to stand up for all that is right, and to be a resposible person, even if he isn't human. Supes is the best of us. Doing what we can't do. Spidey lost his mother and father, and was raised to be a good person, and take responsibility for his actions, and help if he could.

Captain American and Batman where made by choices. Now hear me out. Cap was a 98 pound weakling, who chose to do all he could for his country. Steve could have stayed home and had his choice of ladies while the boy's where shipped out. But he became the Sentinal of Liberty.
When Thomas and Martha Wayne were gunned down in front of a young Bruce Wayne, he chose to become a crime fighter, to prevent that from happening to anyone else. Bruce could have went to therapy, learned to forgive Joe Chill, or even became a police officer, or a social worker.

So the score is this, Spiderman and Superman where groomed by family to become the people they are today, while Batman and Captain America chose this life for themselves.

[Navarre]

We all chose, and are responsible for, our actions. All of us. That includes all four of these heroes.

[greyman24]

I agree that Captain America and Superman are largely counterparts. Both are representative icons of virtue, even for other heroes.

I don't think Spider-Man and Batman are as closely related, but apparently enough for discussion.

THANK YOU!

[Blackthunder01]

I feel that Superman and Spiderman are more alike thank Supes and Captain America. Superman was groomed to be the Man of Steel, by him being sent from a literal world that was dying to one that was dying from a lack of morals. Being raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent to stand up for all that is right, and to be a resposible person, even if he isn't human. Supes is the best of us. Doing what we can't do. Spidey lost his mother and father, and was raised to be a good person, and take responsibility for his actions, and help if he could.

Captain American and Batman where made by choices. Now hear me out. Cap was a 98 pound weakling, who chose to do all he could for his country. Steve could have stayed home and had his choice of ladies while the boy's where shipped out. But he became the Sentinal of Liberty.
When Thomas and Martha Wayne were gunned down in front of a young Bruce Wayne, he chose to become a crime fighter, to prevent that from happening to anyone else. Bruce could have went to therapy, learned to forgive Joe Chill, or even became a police officer, or a social worker.

So the score is this, Spiderman and Superman where groomed by family to become the people they are today, while Batman and Captain America chose this life for themselves.

Sounds like your comparing Bruce Wayne to Steve Rogers ... not Captain America to Batman.  The hero is often much different (or different enough) from their alter ego.

[Larry King]

Sounds like your comparing Bruce Wayne to Steve Rogers ... not Captain America to Batman.  The hero is often much different (or different enough) from their alter ego.

But if Bruce had not chosen to become Batman, the symbol that he represents would not have come to fruition. That act of not letting it go, was the genesis for the dark knight.

[Blackthunder01]

Key word in what you said is "become" ... as in "changed into".  I get the impression you were comparing the "before" versions and saying that they were just as comprable in the "after".

[Larry King]

Key word in what you said is "become" ... as in "changed into".  I get the impression you were comparing the "before" versions and saying that they were just as comprable in the "after".

I think they can be one and the same, both stand up for an ideal, one for patriotism, and one for anti-crime.
But you have pointed out where I have been a little off, and for this act, I do thank you.

[theSuperAlbino]

Just to clarify the original question wasn't is Spider-Man ACTUALLY like Batman. More like does he fit in certain situations. I agree, to an extent, with Larry so let me come back with this. Do you feel Wolverine is a better representation of the "can be dropped into any scenario and make it feel like his story" type character?

[Navarre]

I think both Wolverine and Spider-Man seem to be able to be fit into any story mainly because they are so ubiquitous. They are used so often...everywhere...that it never surprises us when they show up.

It's an odd thing then. We feel they fit everywhere because we see them everywhere but, because the characters have experienced so much situational diversity, they really do fit everywhere.

comics are crazy and only crazy people read comics

[Armaan]

I do think that Captain America is more like Batman. Firstly, their alter egos are similar, as Larry King illustrates wonderfully. Secondly... who are the strategists on the teams? Who are the best hand to hand fighters in their UNIVERSES? Captain America and Batman.
Spiderman is the best 'dropped into any story' character. He's that shade of comic relief, but his heart is also what all superheroes should aspire to have - that strength, that belief in good. That hope(give him a blue ring! give him a blue ring!) He can handle TOTALLY insane characters, if Norman Osborn is any indication. Plus, he's not powerful enough to totally turn the tide of battle, so you can dump him onto a team without worrying that that'll make defeating the bad guys too easily. And he's got cool moves.

Wolverine... one thing I've never gotten about Wolverine. What's his theme? He's a crazy angry animal(give him a red ring! give him a red ring!) with indestructible SHARP POINTY claws. He. Is. A. KILLER. His POWERS are meant to kill. His origins make him a killer. How the hell does her FIGHT without killing half the people there and GRAVELY injuring the other half? Especially in a berserker fury?
And yet, they choose HIM to give a little girl a sentimental moment in that Xmen/Runaways crossover. They downplay his killer side. Like - oh, he mopes and feels heavy guilt. Obviously that means he's not hero worthy.

[Gaumer]

He downplays his killer side because he knows he's a killer and, although he longs not to be, he's the best there is at what he does (TM) and must kill.

I don't get that he doesn't kill every single person he fights, but Spider-Man makes hang-gliders out of web...

[aerspyder]

And that make's him Marvel's Batman