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Navarre
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« on: May 30, 2010, 08:09:22 PM »
It has been discussed some on the main site but, as an ongoing series, deserves a thread.

Opinions on Issue #1?

It seems an odd line-up to me. I can't seem to get Beast in my head as an Avenger even though he was for a long time.

And any Avengers team without some of the classic members feels wrong. Steve (not as Cap), Ant-Man, and Black Widow don't offset my feeling a bit adrift without Iron Man or Thor or Scarlet Witch or someone like that.

I guess I am set in my ways.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 09:33:41 PM »
I can accept the team as it is with the members, and I really like the Irredeemable Ant-Man. I think I was the only person to buy that Kirkman run.

The ish was good but I don't think I'll pick up the second one. I think I have Avenger's burnout.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 11:57:06 PM »
What bothers me is that Bendis has 2 Avenger books and Brubaker has one.  I wish Avengers #1 was as good as Secret Avengers #1.

@Navarre: I like the team makeup of Secret Avengers. It the team makeup of Avengers that bothers me.  You'd think Bendis could have put Ms. Marvel or Stature in the book to make the team feel less of a sausage party.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 07:49:05 AM »
Is the roster of that team Captain America, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Thor, and Wolverine?
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 07:19:31 PM »
Quote from: Navarre on May 31, 2010, 07:49:05 AM
Is the roster of that team Captain America, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Thor, and Wolverine?

Don't forget Mystery Character X who is also a "he".  Too Many Males for my tastes. Only reason I'm sticking around is because Next Avengers and Spider-Girl will be in it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 07:35:49 PM »
Where is Ms. Marvel anyway?
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2010, 07:53:30 PM »
She is in New Avengers I beleive
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 08:01:05 PM »
I wish she was in Secret Avengers instead of Valkyrie. Carol and Steve could have some good tension.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2010, 08:44:37 PM »
Well, I'm going to go ahead and say I liked it, far more than Avengers #1, in fact, Marvel should just give the entire Avengers line over to Brubaker and Fraction, then I'd be one happy geek. Also, you goons keep Ms. Marvel away from this book, Valkyrie hasn't gotten this much screen time since the last time she was in The Defenders.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 08:53:17 PM »
That's because Carol Danvers is a better character than Valkyrie.   Wink
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 09:26:37 PM »
Quote from: Navarre on May 31, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
That's because Carol Danvers is a better character than Valkyrie.   Wink

Not to my eye.  Carol Danvers has become little more than Hal Jordan in a unitard the last couple of years.  The Valkyrie, on the other hand, can be utilized as awesomely as Thor and has years of actual history in the Marvel Universe, rather than the extensive retconning that has created Carol's place.  Her original series was a good one, but the last few years have made Carol much more strident and unpleasant than I'm comfortable with...
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 03:03:31 PM »
What Matthew said...
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2010, 02:07:05 PM »
Secret Avengers has been far better than "New".  I too would have preferred someone to replace Valkerie, but not Ms. Marvel.  She's too public of a figure.  I would have liked to have seen Cloak and Dagger inlcuded.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2010, 12:05:38 AM »
Do you know what I think the problem is? Marvel can't come up with an original name for a group of superheroes, or they're afraid to. I love this team as a Black Ops division... I mean, well, it still does seem like they're bringing little known characters to the light just so they're not totally irrelevant and if any of them are popular enough they can start their own titles...

It's just annoying that now any group of superheroes are automatically tagged as some kind of avengers(unless there are some villains in it. Then they're the Thunderbolts). I mean... the Secret Avengers could just have easily been called Strikeforce, or SHIELD Division 17B - okay, those are lame names, so not THOSE names, but you get my point? They shouldn't call all groups of heroes avengers!
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2010, 07:37:38 AM »
So many characters are affiliated with certain teams that there seems to be an automatic mental connection between the two. I think the name was chosen because it is led by Steve Rogers and most people could only think of him leading the Avengers.

But if he isn't going to be Captain America, wear the costume, wield the shield, or even run his team publicly then why would it matter? Find a new name.

I agree... SHIELD Division 17B gets my vote!  Cheesy
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