Shadow War character development / feats / prestige classes OOC thread

[sab39]

So back around http://www.majorspoilers.com/smf/index.php/topic,1570.msg47287.html#msg47287 here we were talking about adapting Order of the Bow Initiate to an Order of the Shuriken Initiate thing. It requires 5 ranks in Craft(bowmaking) but Nav said that Craft(weapons) would be the appropriate equivalent. I'm considering taking a rank or two in that to keep my options open to take that later, if the option is still on the table, Nav?

Also, I wonder how Palm Throw and Weapon Finesse would combine. Palm throw lets me throw two shuriken per attack roll but I don't get to apply my Str mod. But... what about if it were my Dex mod that I wanted to apply instead? Does Weapon Finesse allow me to sneakily bypass the penalty on Palm Throw?

[Navarre]

Yes, the Order of the Shuriken Initiate is open.

As far as I can see, the Weapon Finesse feat specifically refers to certain weapons (light, rapier, etc) where Dex would be useful. If it could be applied to any weapon (such as shuriken or dagger) I think it would have stated that one can simply use Dex instead of Strength.

I believe this is for game balance so the answer seems to be no on this one.

[Web.Metz]

So back around http://www.majorspoilers.com/smf/index.php/topic,1570.msg47287.html#msg47287 here we were talking about adapting Order of the Bow Initiate to an Order of the Shuriken Initiate thing. It requires 5 ranks in Craft(bowmaking) but Nav said that Craft(weapons) would be the appropriate equivalent. I'm considering taking a rank or two in that to keep my options open to take that later, if the option is still on the table, Nav?

Take 3 ranks in craft(weapon) and will open up Exotic Weapon Master next level, which has stunts that would benefit you, like allowing you to throw shuriken without provoking Attacks of Opportunity (mix shuriken in with your punches ).



Order of the Bow is not good in my opinion, as Ranged Precision does not work with Flurry of Blows...and does not work on foes immune to critical hits.

[sab39]

Isn't a shuriken a light weapon, though...?

Okay, I am finally done leveling up, I believe. Woo!

... why does Ranged Precision not work with FoB?

[Web.Metz]

Isn't a shuriken a light weapon, though...?

Okay, I am finally done leveling up, I believe. Woo!

... why does Ranged Precision not work with FoB?

It states: As a standard action, an initiate may make a single precisely aimed attack with a ranged weapon...

Single means it is one attack.

[Navarre]

There is no mention of ranged weapons under Weapon Finesse, only light melee weapons and the exceptions listed. Although a shuriken is clearly light in the realistic sense, I don't believe that is what the feat refers to from a game standpoint.

[sab39]

I'm not sure about the Weapon Finesse thing but I think there's a different reason it wouldn't work with Palm Throw: it says you can use Dex "Instead of Str" so if you weren't able to use your Str you wouldn't be able to use something else instead of it.

Nav, what'd be your ruling on the Ranged Precision thing if it came up?

[Navarre]

Nav, what'd be your ruling on the Ranged Precision thing if it came up?

Refresh me on how it works, please?

[sab39]

Ranged Precision (Ex): As a standard action, an initiate may make a single precisely aimed attack with a ranged weapon, dealing an extra 1d8 points of damage if the attack hits.
When making a ranged precision attack, an initiate must be within 30 feet of his target. An initiate’s ranged precision attack only works against living creatures with discernible anatomies. Any creature that is immune to critical hits (including undead, constructs, oozes, plants, and incorporeal creatures) is not vulnerable to a ranged precision attack, and any item or ability that protects a creature from critical hits (such as armor with the fortification special ability) also protects a creature from the extra damage.
Unlike with a rogue’s sneak attack, the initiate’s target does not have to be fl at-footed or denied its Dexterity bonus, but if it is, the initiate’s extra precision damage stacks with sneak attack damage. Treat the initiate’s ranged precision attack as a sneak attack in all other ways.
The initiate’s bonus to damage on ranged precision attacks increases by +1d8 every two levels. An initiate can only use this ability with a ranged weapon for which he has taken the Weapon Focus feat.

Hmm... which sounds like Metz is right, it's not a modifier to your regular attack, it's a special standard action unrelated to your BAB/Flurry attacks. That's pretty disappointing.

[Navarre]

Yes, it looks like it would be a standard action attack with your shuriken with +1d8 on the damage. Being a standard attack, there wouldn't be any way to combine that with the full-round FoB.

[Web.Metz]

I am looking at the impossible, since we will never reach level 21.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm


Epic Feats which Faerun would take
Epic Spell Focus (Illusion)
Epic Spellcasting [Epic]
Epic Spell Penetration [Epic]
Extended Life Span [Epic]
Great Intelligence [Epic]
Improved Metamagic [Epic]
Improved Spell Capacity [Epic]
Permanent Emanation [Epic] (Time Stop)
Spell Knowledge [Epic]
Spell Opportunity [Epic]

[Gaumer]

I am looking at the impossible, since we will never reach level 21.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm

What? I'm looking forward to it

I'm sure no matter how far we go with what Nav has planned he can always find some other epic mystery that needs solving.

[Web.Metz]

I am looking at the impossible, since we will never reach level 21.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm

What? I'm looking forward to it

I'm sure no matter how far we go with what Nav has planned he can always find some other epic mystery that needs solving.

There is some world out there that has a problem, and Faerun A and his intrepid band of allies can solve it.


Gaumer, have you considered taking just ONE level of Druid Focused Animal for Bedlor?
See this post

It would give you the following:
3 Druid Cantrips per day.
1 level 1 druid spell once per day.
The ability to speak with your animal companion as if with the Speak to Animal Spell.
You are also considered 2 levels higher for purposes of determining your Animal Companion’s abilities.


EDIT: The Focused Animal Druid is a Druid with only these abilities:
Cast Prepared Divine Wisdom-based ; Spells from Druid list ; Spontaneously convert Druid spells into Summon Nature’s Ally spells ; Animal Companion ; Nature Sense ; Wild Empathy ; Focused Animal
They do not gain Wild Shape, Trackless Step, or Woodland Stride.

[Gaumer]

I can honestly see it happening. But it would have to be a organic thing and RPed...and perhaps an Alignment change

Let's go find that grove

[Web.Metz]

I can honestly see it happening. But it would have to be a organic thing and RPed...and perhaps an Alignment change

Let's go find that grove

Who says you need a grove? It could be RPed as you gaining a deeper connection with nature and your animal companion. Perhaps you help a fey creature or something.

Alignment Change? Druids are  NG, LN, N, CN, NE. Is Bedlor LG?