Shadow War character development / feats / prestige classes OOC thread

[sab39]

Metz suggested we have a separate thread for character development, and Chrysalis let me know by IM that the volume of posting in the OOC was too much for her to keep up with. So I'm starting a thread here. Hope that's ok, Navarre.

[Web.Metz]

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[sab39]

So lets see the max damage we can get with a normal shruiken
Point Blank +1
Weapon Focus (shruiken)
Weapon Specialization (shruiken) +2
Greater Weapon Specialization (shruiken) +2
Ranged Weapon Mastery – Piercing +2
Rapid Shot (additional ranged attack)

So with that sequence and Str+3, and level 12 (which I can't get all those feats before, anyway!) I can do 4 attacks per round at 11 damage per throw!

And the best ones of all:

Zen Archery [General] (CWar p106)
Wisdom 13 Base Attack Bonus +1
You may use your Wisdom modifier instead of your Dexterity modifier when making ranged attacks.

My Wis and Dex mods will be equal once I hit level 4. Then I'd need to take Str at levels 8 and 12 to get the +3 on the damage and to be eligible for one of those feats.

[Web.Metz]

Plunging Shot requires Point Blank shot...so you are on the right track

[sab39]

So let's see... I get feats every 3 levels and ability points every 4. So we're looking at (best case, without looking at prereqs):

Level 3: Point Blank
Level 4: up Dex
Level 5: nothing
Level 6: Weapon Focus
Level 7: nothing
Level 8: up Str to 15
Level 9: Weapon Specialization
Level 10: nothing
Level 11: nothing
Level 12: Greater Weapon Specialization, up Str to 16 (+3 mod)
Level 13: nothing
Level 14: nothing
Level 15: Ranged Weapon Mastery
Level 16: up
Level 17: nothing
Level 18: Rapid shot? Far shot? precise shot? (would rather do all those three lower down though, but if I do then I can't get Greater Specialization or Mastery)
Level 19: nothing
Level 20: up

[sab39]

In other words, there just aren't enough feats available to me to get all the things to get the Awesome Shuriken status I'm aiming for, prior to, what, level 25 or so

[Web.Metz]

So with that sequence and Str+3, and level 12 (which I can't get all those feats before, anyway!) I can do 4 attacks per round at 11 damage per throw!

Actually with Rapid Shot, you can get 5 attacks...I think.
Normal Full Round attack with Flurry of Blows BaB: +9/+9/+9/+4
Rapid Shot Full Round attack with Flurry of Blows BaB: +9-2/+9-2/+9-2/+4-2=+7/+7/+7/+7/+2

...I think Rapid shot cannot be stacked with Flurry...

[sab39]

I thought Flurry only gave 2 extra attacks per round for a total of 3?

So I'd need Rapid to stack with Flurry to get 4.

[Web.Metz]

In other words, there just aren't enough feats available to me to get all the things to get the Awesome Shuriken status I'm aiming for, prior to, what, level 25 or so

It would be easier to get Plunging Shot to get an additional 1d6 to each attack and and hold off on greater specialization.

Death from above!

You start on a cliff 30' above the enemy we are fighting.
Flurry of Blows, roll for hit, 1d20+9+3+2+2/1d20+9+3+2+2/1d20+9+3+2+2/1d20+4+3+2+2
Wow they all hit!
So you roll damage.
1+2+1d6+3/1+2+1d6+3/1+2+1d6+3/1+2+1d6+3 Instead of the normal: 1+2+2+2+3/1+2+2+2+3/1+2+2+2+3/1+2+2+2+3

I thought Flurry only gave 2 extra attacks per round for a total of 3?

So I'd need Rapid to stack with Flurry to get 4.

At level 11, FoB adds another attack.

[sab39]

Flurry gives me ONE extra attack now. At level 11 it gives me a second extra attack, for a total of 3.

[Web.Metz]

What am I saying. greater specialization is better than plunging shot. +2 beats +1d6

[sab39]

and you don't have to be perched on top of a cliff.

[Web.Metz]

Flurry gives me ONE extra attack now. At level 11 it gives me a second extra attack, for a total of 3.

hey....I am going off of the monk table.

Flurry of Blows is in addition to the extra attacks you get via BaB.
At level 12, you have a base BaB of +9/+4.
Add flurry of blows to that and you get 4 attacks.

At level 8, your BaB gets a second attack. +6/+1. Add FoB to that and you get 3 attacks.
At level 11, FoB upgrades to 2 attacks. Your base BaB is +8/+3 and your FoB is +8/+8/+8/+3.

and you don't have to be perched on top of a cliff.

Or flying in midair

[sab39]

If I'd picked Point Blank as my first level feat instead of Dodge I could get most of the way there. Hmm. I haven't relied on Dodge yet as far as I recall...

[sab39]

Flurry gives me ONE extra attack now. At level 11 it gives me a second extra attack, for a total of 3.

hey....I am going off of the monk table.

Flurry of Blows is in addition to the extra attacks you get via BaB.
At level 12, you have a base BaB of +9/+4.
Add flurry of blows to that and you get 4 attacks.

At level 8, your BaB gets a second attack. +6/+1. Add FoB to that and you get 3 attacks.
At level 11, FoB upgrades to 2 attacks. Your base BaB is +8/+3 and your FoB is +8/+8/+8/+3.

Ok, one or other of us understands this wrong. Hopefully Navarre will show up and set us straight. I'm not sure if I dare ask to switch out my first level feat, though