Shadow War campaign OOC Thread

[Navarre]

Thanks, sab! I'll let you guys work on it then. I know sab will have great input and it will help Lutharian get a better feel for both the sheet and the character.

[Gaumer]

I got problems, I need advice

Bedlor was geared to use Warsong as far as feats and such go. While he is still viable with his current setup, continuing that path could be an advantage but so could grabbing some fighter lvls and taking some more feats that use the mount to the greatest benefit.

What do you guys think?

Oh, and tentative 2:25pm local time viewing today

[Navarre]

Oh, and tentative 2:25pm local time viewing today

YES!! 

As for Warsong, I had no expectation that you'd just give it up so easily. I see why Bedlor might want to but I'm surprised he did.

Unlike Kallum, Bedlor isn't dead. You could still be the Protector of Man, you know.

[Gaumer]

Oh, and tentative 2:25pm local time viewing today

YES!! 

As for Warsong, I had no expectation that you'd just give it up so easily. I see why Bedlor might want to but I'm surprised he did.

Unlike Kallum, Bedlor isn't dead. You could still be the Protector of Man, you know.

I know, but I really am not sure that Bedlor would consciously take on that responsibility again. If it was given he would take it, but do not change anything on account of knowing that.

Even if he DOES get Dubya back, and I honestly do not care one way or another; I think its a cool twist; there's still the pegasus, and he really likes that thing, and mounted combat would still be a viable option.

I'm just not sure which way to take it: continue the Scout path, giving more Skirmish perks and camo ability; or taking fighter to grab more mount feats. I haven't found any mounted PrCl that don't require a Know: Nobility skill, and I don't see Bed having that, and he needs Ride ranks.

[Navarre]

I know, but I really am not sure that Bedlor would consciously take on that responsibility again. If it was given he would take it, but do not change anything on account of knowing that.

Never would.

... I'm just saying that while the RP has been opened about who will wield Warsong between you and Coby, you have the actual ability to do it if you want. You haven't lost the right.

So it comes down to what your character wants to do. I don't want bedlor to be defined by him weapon. But, I also know it's in the eleventh hour of the game.   

[Gaumer]

Well, if I am going to RP properly I cannot take into account that it is the 11th hour And its the RP that REALLY matters. I almost hate leveling at this point.

I think if I am actually doing it all by RP and ignoring my sheet with so MANY classes in that one slot, I know my answer. Bed likes the flying horse!!

[sab39]

Ok, Lutharian: It seems that Nav already made you able to edit - I didn't realize I'd given HIM permission to do that! Anyway...

The first thing you need to do is to decide which class you are going to level in. My plan for the character had been to get him up to Monk 12 to get Abundant Step, which happened last time we leveled, and then take Ninja levels from there out, mainly to increase the amount of Sudden Strike damage. Because you get Sudden Strike for every hit, and if you combine Rapid Shot with Flurry of Blows you get a quite ridiculous number of hits per round that multiplies your Sudden Strike damage. I don't think I have an electronic form of the Ninja class description available, though. It comes from the Complete Adventurer source book. The combat strategy is basically: Use Ki power to become invisible, take a 5ft step, then throw ludicrous numbers of shuriken getting sudden strike for every one that hits because you're invisible and the opponent can't see you. As a 2nd level Ninja he only gets 1d6 Sudden Strike per hit and that already adds up to a lot when he can get up to 6 hits per round (each with a pair of shuriken, but sudden strike only counts once per pair thrown). At Ninja 3 I believe Sudden Strike goes up to 2d6, which means that if every throw hits, that's 12d6 just in Sudden Strike damage!

Once you've decided which class to level in, the bottom-right of the sheet has a Class Levels section which lists what levels he has in each class and the associated BAB and saves. If you put those in in the row for Ninja (or whatever class you decide to take), it will automatically sum them up and change everything else on the sheet that depends on BAB and Saves accordingly, including the weapon attacks.

You'd roll the appropriate Hit Dice for the class that you're leveling in and fill that in in the Hit Dice section which will up your HP accordingly.

Skill points are always my least favorite part because there's so much to decide, but I try to keep T'Ning as max'd as possible in Hide and Move Silently. I also try to keep his Spot, Listen and Sense Motive pretty high. Beyond that, I don't have any good way to make decisions, but you can see where I've put ranks in the other things. The rows that are green are class skills for T'Ning so you can get one rank per point you spend. Adjust the Ranks column and all the rest will get summed up accordingly with ability modifiers and special modifiers.

Since you're hitting 16th level you'll get an ability point to use. All of T'Ning's abilities are currently on even numbers except Cha, and I've made a point that T'Ning's Cha should stay low because being uncharismatic and fairly awkward is part of his character, so I've deliberately decided never to increase that from what he got to begin with. So there's no obvious ability to put that point on and it's quite possible you'll never get another so it's probably moot... but I'd go with Wis or Dex as the most key to T'Ning's skillset. Put that in at the top-left in the grey and it will recalculate the green part accordingly - which is to say, leave it mostly unchanged.

I think that's all the things that apply to leveling in general, but I may have missed something. But then you also have to look at what new abilities the class level gives you; that will depend on whether you bumped Ninja or Monk or something else.

[Lutharian]

Being part Japanese, I am so gonna have to go ninja with the level for sure. The updating of the sheet will be done once im on my comp at home. 

[Lutharian]

Ok, so I believe I did everything I was supposed to.  I found a pdf of Complete Adventurer's and followed that. Increased the HP by 5 for a d6 hit dice roll, added 6 points total amongst skills...one ability point in wisdom, making it 20 instead of 19, adding a +1 to the mod. Also added to BAB, fort, ref, and will according to the table in the book.  If I messed up something, or missed something let me know.  I believe at lvl 3 for Ninja I gain poison use?  Not sure what it does entirely, because all it says is a Ninja never accidently poisons herself...now why on earth would I want to do that. 

[sab39]

The Wis mod was actually already +5 because there's a bonus coming from somewhere else - the green numbers slightly to the right are the ones that actually apply. Other than that it sounds right except that I thought you got more skill points than that - isn't Ninja 6 + int mod? T'Ning's Int mod is 2 so if I'm remembering that right it'd be a total of 8 to distribute.

Also - unless it's been used a bunch in combat since I was aware of it, T'Ning's slept since the last time he used Stunning Fist and his Ki power, so you can zero out the Ki Power and Stunning Fist "Used" column under "T'Ning Custom Calculations" near the bottom right. I had used those in the fight against Lyric, but that was the previous game-day and I don't think you used Stunning Fist or Ki Invisibility in your sparring with the hobs right?

[Lutharian]

No, I just used FoB against the hobies.  And I will correct the other things.

Edit: All changes made as suggested. 

[Gaumer]

EPIC! Amazing! This marvel fanboy's wet dream! Not the best comic book movie I've seen; I still think TDK had a better, deeper script, but Avengers was simply fun and may be the most fun I've had at the movies since the 1990's.

I'd have to say that Jarvis had the best line with his comment about whales and role-models

Cap's comment about god, after seeing it, leads me to think that it was less a philosophical comment and more just him not backing down to a so-called "god", which is much MUCH cooler IMO.

Let me ask something that I haven't even seen hinted at anywhere on the web. No real spoilers either. The scene where Thor kidnaps Loki and they end up in the woods. As soon as they pan out to a long view there are two birds flying and you can hear the bird's call as well. I so want to say that those are Odin's ravens checking up on his boys. I have nothing but my own fanboyish desires steering me to believe this, but, I go out at night quite often and rarely see birds flying around, and I KNOW Joss isn't going to just throw some freaking birds in there for no damned reason. Check it out next time you see it.

[sab39]

I'd have to say that Jarvis had the best line with his comment about whales and role-models

I have about a dozen contenders for "best line of the movie" and I've given up trying to choose a single favorite from among them. At least one of which didn't include any actual words - specifically, this one.

I didn't notice the birds but I wouldn't be surprised. On the other hand, Odin's ravens didn't show up in the Thor movie, did they?

[Gaumer]

I'd have to say that Jarvis had the best line with his comment about whales and role-models

I have about a dozen contenders for "best line of the movie" and I've given up trying to choose a single favorite from among them. At least one of which didn't include any actual words - specifically, this one.

I didn't notice the birds but I wouldn't be surprised. On the other hand, Odin's ravens didn't show up in the Thor movie, did they?

That scene was cute. I was pleasantly surprised that Ironman didn't fuel all the funny. It was really spread out among everyone.

I'm not sure but I will now put that disc in my DVD player and search every damned scene.

Maria Hill was a very nice addition from a comic fanboy's POV as well.

[Gaumer]

Bam!



See 'em up 'er?

I really want to know if I saw what I think I saw this afternoon now.