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		<title>By: Maximus Rift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximus Rift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, here&#039;s my knee-jerk reaction : &quot;I hate stinkin&#039; Teenagers!!&quot;  ;p

Seriously, why can&#039;t we have a genuine superhero show?  Why can&#039;t we have Tom Welling put on the suit and continue the show in Metropolis? Why not just have a well-done Batman show, instead of &#039;Graysons&#039;&#039;? Heck, why not a Question show if you&#039;re that afraid of spandex?

If you really need teen heroes, then use the Legion. Plenty of characters. Plenty of romance angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here&#8217;s my knee-jerk reaction : &#8220;I hate stinkin&#8217; Teenagers!!&#8221;  ;p</p>
<p>Seriously, why can&#8217;t we have a genuine superhero show?  Why can&#8217;t we have Tom Welling put on the suit and continue the show in Metropolis? Why not just have a well-done Batman show, instead of &#8216;Graysons&#8221;? Heck, why not a Question show if you&#8217;re that afraid of spandex?</p>
<p>If you really need teen heroes, then use the Legion. Plenty of characters. Plenty of romance angles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/6889.htm/#comment-83931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t they just do a spin-off of the Chris Rock show. You could call it &quot;Everybody Hates Dick&quot; or make it more sit-commy and call it &quot;Everyone Loves Dick.&quot; You&#039;d get a lot of accidental viewers. Personally, I&#039;m not so much into Dick, so I&#039;ll pass on this show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they just do a spin-off of the Chris Rock show. You could call it &#8220;Everybody Hates Dick&#8221; or make it more sit-commy and call it &#8220;Everyone Loves Dick.&#8221; You&#8217;d get a lot of accidental viewers. Personally, I&#8217;m not so much into Dick, so I&#8217;ll pass on this show.</p>
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		<title>By: ~wyntermute~</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/6889.htm/#comment-83923</link>
		<dc:creator>~wyntermute~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to put in my $0.20 about this earlier (total FAIL), but I figured that was just too knee-jerk a reaction.... Given some time to think it over, I&#039;ve come to a lot of the same conclusions as were posted above.  &quot;DJ&quot; (for &quot;Dear Jesus what a lame nickname&quot;) became Robin when he was, like, 9-12 years old.  There&#039;s not a whole lotta &quot;pre-batman&quot; that would really resonate with anybody out of grade school..  The character was established as part of a traveling family of acrobats.  There&#039;s not much &quot;home life&quot; to focus on....  So essentially, this says &quot;hey, let&#039;s put the name Grayson on an actor who loosely resembles the artist&#039;s depiction of the character, and expect people to go crazy-bananas for it!&quot;

My prediction:  it&#039;ll be a hit with girls aged 12-19, and thus will TOTALLY be around for years.  :-S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to put in my $0.20 about this earlier (total FAIL), but I figured that was just too knee-jerk a reaction&#8230;. Given some time to think it over, I&#8217;ve come to a lot of the same conclusions as were posted above.  &#8220;DJ&#8221; (for &#8220;Dear Jesus what a lame nickname&#8221;) became Robin when he was, like, 9-12 years old.  There&#8217;s not a whole lotta &#8220;pre-batman&#8221; that would really resonate with anybody out of grade school..  The character was established as part of a traveling family of acrobats.  There&#8217;s not much &#8220;home life&#8221; to focus on&#8230;.  So essentially, this says &#8220;hey, let&#8217;s put the name Grayson on an actor who loosely resembles the artist&#8217;s depiction of the character, and expect people to go crazy-bananas for it!&#8221;</p>
<p>My prediction:  it&#8217;ll be a hit with girls aged 12-19, and thus will TOTALLY be around for years.  :-S</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Nygma</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/6889.htm/#comment-83919</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Nygma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is an attempt to fill in a gap, pre-empting a future Robin appearing in the Batman movie franchise?

Seriously, that&#039;s the closest I can come to putting logic on this. If they&#039;d wanted to do something with Grayson why not pick up the time between him being Robin and becoming Nightwing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is an attempt to fill in a gap, pre-empting a future Robin appearing in the Batman movie franchise?</p>
<p>Seriously, that&#8217;s the closest I can come to putting logic on this. If they&#8217;d wanted to do something with Grayson why not pick up the time between him being Robin and becoming Nightwing?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/6889.htm/#comment-83908</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is right.  This idea sucks.  It wouldn&#039;t work, and no one would watch it.  

So let me just say whatever one else is thinking.  

DC, if you&#039;re looking for a new show, set in the DCU, to replace Smallville, three words, Junior Lifeguard Association.  

You&#039;ve already done all the hard work, you already have the actors established.  Just pull them all together, throw in some DC villains, and wha-la, a show that&#039;s better than Heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is right.  This idea sucks.  It wouldn&#8217;t work, and no one would watch it.  </p>
<p>So let me just say whatever one else is thinking.  </p>
<p>DC, if you&#8217;re looking for a new show, set in the DCU, to replace Smallville, three words, Junior Lifeguard Association.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve already done all the hard work, you already have the actors established.  Just pull them all together, throw in some DC villains, and wha-la, a show that&#8217;s better than Heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Smallville, they at least had the powers that needed to be dealt with and learn to use.  It at least has a connection to Superman that has some notoriety (his youth in Smallville).  His career essentially began at a young age because he has powers, is an alien, etc.  It may have a lot of &quot;Dawson&#039;s Creek&quot; elements, but it also has super powered bad guys.

Dick Grayson&#039;s career didn&#039;t begin until he met Batman.  He was just a kid with nothing that hinted what his future would be.  

Other than to lasso an initial audience, what&#039;s the point of lassoing this the DC comics character.  You might get some mileage from a circus background.  At least the traveling aspect creates a built-in excuse for guest stars, but what connect to Robin/Nightwing can be made.  It&#039;s not like Grayson is such a unique name that the connection is automatic the way Clark Kent is.

By the way, DJ?.  A nickname for a nickname?  It went from Richard to Dick to DJ?  Why not RJ? or Rich? or Rick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Smallville, they at least had the powers that needed to be dealt with and learn to use.  It at least has a connection to Superman that has some notoriety (his youth in Smallville).  His career essentially began at a young age because he has powers, is an alien, etc.  It may have a lot of &#8220;Dawson&#8217;s Creek&#8221; elements, but it also has super powered bad guys.</p>
<p>Dick Grayson&#8217;s career didn&#8217;t begin until he met Batman.  He was just a kid with nothing that hinted what his future would be.  </p>
<p>Other than to lasso an initial audience, what&#8217;s the point of lassoing this the DC comics character.  You might get some mileage from a circus background.  At least the traveling aspect creates a built-in excuse for guest stars, but what connect to Robin/Nightwing can be made.  It&#8217;s not like Grayson is such a unique name that the connection is automatic the way Clark Kent is.</p>
<p>By the way, DJ?.  A nickname for a nickname?  It went from Richard to Dick to DJ?  Why not RJ? or Rich? or Rick?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/6889.htm/#comment-83880</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show is a total Gilligan&#039;s Island scenario...  If we&#039;re watching a character that we&#039;re expecting to develop into someone we know, it limits the emotional involvement.  With Tom Welling, we can do the red jacket that isn&#039;t his cape, and all the nods to what&#039;s going to happen.

With Dick Grayson, he became Robin when he was 8.  That&#039;s the boy aspect of Boy Wonder, after all...  If you want to do a &quot;Before The Cape&quot; version of a DC hero, I&#039;d recommend one with a more normal childhood, but then I realize that after Superman, none of DC&#039;s big names really had that.

I didn&#039;t mind Aquaman&#039;s pilot (though my daughter and I call it &quot;Teenage Fishman&quot; and sing it to the tune of the Who&#039;s Baba O&#039;Reilly ((&quot;TEENAGE FISHMAAAN!  Oh, TEENAGE FISHMAAN!  WE&#039;RE ALL FISHMEEN!!!&quot;  *Guitar solo*))) but it, too, tried a bit to hard to put the existing character in the whole &quot;Dawson&#039;s Creek&quot; ouvre.

Y&#039;know who might be fun in a story like this?  Young Matt Murdock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This show is a total Gilligan&#8217;s Island scenario&#8230;  If we&#8217;re watching a character that we&#8217;re expecting to develop into someone we know, it limits the emotional involvement.  With Tom Welling, we can do the red jacket that isn&#8217;t his cape, and all the nods to what&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
<p>With Dick Grayson, he became Robin when he was 8.  That&#8217;s the boy aspect of Boy Wonder, after all&#8230;  If you want to do a &#8220;Before The Cape&#8221; version of a DC hero, I&#8217;d recommend one with a more normal childhood, but then I realize that after Superman, none of DC&#8217;s big names really had that.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mind Aquaman&#8217;s pilot (though my daughter and I call it &#8220;Teenage Fishman&#8221; and sing it to the tune of the Who&#8217;s Baba O&#8217;Reilly ((&#8221;TEENAGE FISHMAAAN!  Oh, TEENAGE FISHMAAN!  WE&#8217;RE ALL FISHMEEN!!!&#8221;  *Guitar solo*))) but it, too, tried a bit to hard to put the existing character in the whole &#8220;Dawson&#8217;s Creek&#8221; ouvre.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know who might be fun in a story like this?  Young Matt Murdock.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough* &quot;Birds of Prey&quot; *cough*

And the sad thing about that show was that it didn&#039;t quite piss all over the capes &#039;n tights aspect of its source material quite as badly as &quot;Smallville&quot; has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cough* &#8220;Birds of Prey&#8221; *cough*</p>
<p>And the sad thing about that show was that it didn&#8217;t quite piss all over the capes &#8216;n tights aspect of its source material quite as badly as &#8220;Smallville&#8221; has.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkCalifornia</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkCalifornia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no interest seeing a show about Robin before Batman, I could care less about Robin period. It looks like the CW has a niche to fill and this is it. Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no interest seeing a show about Robin before Batman, I could care less about Robin period. It looks like the CW has a niche to fill and this is it. Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: travelsized</title>
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		<dc:creator>travelsized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... it&#039;s about Robin before he becomes Robin, before he meets Batman, and before his parents die? Then what&#039;s the point? I&#039;m guessing he won&#039;t be in the circus, either, though if he were, you&#039;d end up with a mix of One Tree Hill (since it&#039;s CW) and Kung-Fu, but with carnie-folk. 

Actually, that would be kind of awesome. A team of carnies traveling from town to town, solving crimes and helping people in need. Well, it would be awesome for one episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; it&#8217;s about Robin before he becomes Robin, before he meets Batman, and before his parents die? Then what&#8217;s the point? I&#8217;m guessing he won&#8217;t be in the circus, either, though if he were, you&#8217;d end up with a mix of One Tree Hill (since it&#8217;s CW) and Kung-Fu, but with carnie-folk. </p>
<p>Actually, that would be kind of awesome. A team of carnies traveling from town to town, solving crimes and helping people in need. Well, it would be awesome for one episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the  Aquaman pilot starring Justin Hartley as AC, and it was ok with a lot of potential.  This sh believe is doomed from the start.  How can dick be the boy wonder if he is a Chris O&#039;Donnel&#039;s age when he becomes Robin.  Those movies sucked and killed the franchise for a reason.  If they wanted to do another Barbera Gordon show as a young girl/teen pree batgirl, that could possibly work.  Keep the commish in but only mention the Batman on occassion.  Contrary to the cartoons I don&#039;t believe Batgirl started as a young teen.
If this show develops, I am certain that it will quicklyhe way of Birds of Prey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the  Aquaman pilot starring Justin Hartley as AC, and it was ok with a lot of potential.  This sh believe is doomed from the start.  How can dick be the boy wonder if he is a Chris O&#8217;Donnel&#8217;s age when he becomes Robin.  Those movies sucked and killed the franchise for a reason.  If they wanted to do another Barbera Gordon show as a young girl/teen pree batgirl, that could possibly work.  Keep the commish in but only mention the Batman on occassion.  Contrary to the cartoons I don&#8217;t believe Batgirl started as a young teen.<br />
If this show develops, I am certain that it will quicklyhe way of Birds of Prey.</p>
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		<title>By: Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;first loves&quot;???  Wasn&#039;t Dick a youngster of about 12 when his parents died?  How many first loves does a kid before his teen have nowadays?  I really don&#039;t see this going anywhere or being remotely related to the comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;first loves&#8221;???  Wasn&#8217;t Dick a youngster of about 12 when his parents died?  How many first loves does a kid before his teen have nowadays?  I really don&#8217;t see this going anywhere or being remotely related to the comics.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ?  Gimme a break.  Of course this assumes that they even buy the series.  Remember &quot;Mercy Reef&quot; or whatever the Aquaman show was called?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ?  Gimme a break.  Of course this assumes that they even buy the series.  Remember &#8220;Mercy Reef&#8221; or whatever the Aquaman show was called?</p>
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