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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... I’ve asked The Flash there to investigate ...&quot;
I&#039;m not sure why you bashed this line.  There are multiple heroes named Flash so &quot;the Flash there&quot; identifies one of them.  Isn&#039;t it better than saying something like &quot;... I&#039;ve asked Keystone City Flash to investigate...&quot;  or maybe you would just prefer if he said Jay or Wally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; I’ve asked The Flash there to investigate &#8230;&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m not sure why you bashed this line.  There are multiple heroes named Flash so &#8220;the Flash there&#8221; identifies one of them.  Isn&#8217;t it better than saying something like &#8220;&#8230; I&#8217;ve asked Keystone City Flash to investigate&#8230;&#8221;  or maybe you would just prefer if he said Jay or Wally?</p>
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		<title>By: J'osh</title>
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		<dc:creator>J'osh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final Crisis feels like a sequel to &quot;52&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final Crisis feels like a sequel to &#8220;52&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-75052</link>
		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply put...to enjoy final crisis....stop over analyzing stuff on the book and just read it. Read it without figuring continuity and make this book as stand alone away from the DCU. Thats what I&#039;m doing and I&#039;m loving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply put&#8230;to enjoy final crisis&#8230;.stop over analyzing stuff on the book and just read it. Read it without figuring continuity and make this book as stand alone away from the DCU. Thats what I&#8217;m doing and I&#8217;m loving it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-74972</link>
		<dc:creator>Kip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: 

&quot; HurrHrr Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

There’s a pciture of photoshopped of Barry saying “review” , That should be more then enough to tell you about ‘Major Spoilers’ and it’s idiotic Newsaramaesque “crowd”. &quot;


Even if English isn&#039;t one&#039;s native language, most folks would refrain from submitting comments as such that reveal one&#039;s own lack of comprehension, much less one&#039;s shaky grasp on reality.

To point: you called yourself &#039;idiotic&#039; and proved it true, all in the same sentence. Way to go, idiot.</description>
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<p>&#8221; HurrHrr Says:<br />
June 28th, 2008 at 2:46 pm</p>
<p>There’s a pciture of photoshopped of Barry saying “review” , That should be more then enough to tell you about ‘Major Spoilers’ and it’s idiotic Newsaramaesque “crowd”. &#8221;</p>
<p>Even if English isn&#8217;t one&#8217;s native language, most folks would refrain from submitting comments as such that reveal one&#8217;s own lack of comprehension, much less one&#8217;s shaky grasp on reality.</p>
<p>To point: you called yourself &#8216;idiotic&#8217; and proved it true, all in the same sentence. Way to go, idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: HurrHrr</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-74920</link>
		<dc:creator>HurrHrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a pciture of photoshopped of Barry saying &quot;review&quot; , That should be more then enough to tell you about &#039;Major Spoilers&#039; and it&#039;s idiotic Newsaramaesque &quot;crowd&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a pciture of photoshopped of Barry saying &#8220;review&#8221; , That should be more then enough to tell you about &#8216;Major Spoilers&#8217; and it&#8217;s idiotic Newsaramaesque &#8220;crowd&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Randallw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randallw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same racer that appeared already with his normal appearance?

Also Flashes have their own death, the Black Flash.

Who is Super Sumo then, Orion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same racer that appeared already with his normal appearance?</p>
<p>Also Flashes have their own death, the Black Flash.</p>
<p>Who is Super Sumo then, Orion?</p>
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		<title>By: Kip</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-74849</link>
		<dc:creator>Kip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That guy chasing Barry is the Black Racer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Racer

And instead of the virus, I&#039;m leaning towards thinking that capsule is the &#039;magic&#039; bullet, just with the time travel and all that.

Again, thanks for the review--especially for noting into whom Turpin was changing. I had inferred it was from his encounter with Boss Dark Side and the children but was still unsure. Re-reading, I now see that Morrison actually spells it out and has Rev. Good tell him, &quot;We, Sir, are the Gods of Apokolips....&quot; and &quot;They&#039;ve even grown a new body for your son, Kalibak the Cruel.&quot;  

The Japan sequence was alot of fun, mostly the Sumo bit but also some of the clever exposition dealing in the gigantic monsters tradition. I preferred the Green Lantern/Parallax scenes (CSI on Orion was kinda neat), but only if there&#039;s a good reason why John Stewart hasn&#039;t revealed his attacker&#039;s identity and gotten the charges against Hal dropped.  

Regarding the confusion between Countdown and this continuity, I&#039;m not going to sweat it just yet and enjoy the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That guy chasing Barry is the Black Racer, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Racer" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Racer</a></p>
<p>And instead of the virus, I&#8217;m leaning towards thinking that capsule is the &#8216;magic&#8217; bullet, just with the time travel and all that.</p>
<p>Again, thanks for the review&#8211;especially for noting into whom Turpin was changing. I had inferred it was from his encounter with Boss Dark Side and the children but was still unsure. Re-reading, I now see that Morrison actually spells it out and has Rev. Good tell him, &#8220;We, Sir, are the Gods of Apokolips&#8230;.&#8221; and &#8220;They&#8217;ve even grown a new body for your son, Kalibak the Cruel.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The Japan sequence was alot of fun, mostly the Sumo bit but also some of the clever exposition dealing in the gigantic monsters tradition. I preferred the Green Lantern/Parallax scenes (CSI on Orion was kinda neat), but only if there&#8217;s a good reason why John Stewart hasn&#8217;t revealed his attacker&#8217;s identity and gotten the charges against Hal dropped.  </p>
<p>Regarding the confusion between Countdown and this continuity, I&#8217;m not going to sweat it just yet and enjoy the ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Randallw</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-74832</link>
		<dc:creator>Randallw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your guess is as good as mine about the virus in the bottle, but who&#039;s the armoured figure almost on skis following Barry Allen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your guess is as good as mine about the virus in the bottle, but who&#8217;s the armoured figure almost on skis following Barry Allen?</p>
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		<title>By: peterbr</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/4376.htm/#comment-74823</link>
		<dc:creator>peterbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is supposed to be the Fifth World yet.  The impression I get is that Final Crisis will bring about the Fifth World.  There was an interview with Morrison where he stated that Orion was the first dead New God that was supposed to be seen, so I think that&#039;s where a lot of the confusion is coming from.  I think that&#039;s also why Morrison comes off as the &quot;all-star quarterback&quot; - apparently Final Crisis was in the works for a long time, and was even being written before Countdown had been conceived.  Then Countdown comes along and kills off all the characters that were supposed to be central to this big story...well, I could see where that could be frustrating, for both him and the readers.  
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080609-MorrisonFC01.html
I&#039;m enjoying this so far (even if this issue was a little slower than I would&#039;ve liked), and I&#039;m willing to see where it goes.  If, even at the end, it doesn&#039;t fit into continuity nicely, then hopefully it was still an enjoyable story.  But this is only issue 2 out of...what, 7?...so there&#039;s still a lot of story left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is supposed to be the Fifth World yet.  The impression I get is that Final Crisis will bring about the Fifth World.  There was an interview with Morrison where he stated that Orion was the first dead New God that was supposed to be seen, so I think that&#8217;s where a lot of the confusion is coming from.  I think that&#8217;s also why Morrison comes off as the &#8220;all-star quarterback&#8221; &#8211; apparently Final Crisis was in the works for a long time, and was even being written before Countdown had been conceived.  Then Countdown comes along and kills off all the characters that were supposed to be central to this big story&#8230;well, I could see where that could be frustrating, for both him and the readers.<br />
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080609-MorrisonFC01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080609-MorrisonFC01.html</a><br />
I&#8217;m enjoying this so far (even if this issue was a little slower than I would&#8217;ve liked), and I&#8217;m willing to see where it goes.  If, even at the end, it doesn&#8217;t fit into continuity nicely, then hopefully it was still an enjoyable story.  But this is only issue 2 out of&#8230;what, 7?&#8230;so there&#8217;s still a lot of story left.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought this issue had a lot more intriguing points than the first but the pacing seemed really off. There&#039;s the loooong beginning part where Japanese heroes I don&#039;t care about lounge around and act cool. And then all of the sudden someone attacks John Stewart and Hal Jordan is arrested. Maybe we could have compressed the first and expanded the 2nd? FC is gaining momentum but it&#039;s still hit and miss for me. I like some of Morrison&#039;s work but I do think he&#039;s a bit overrated. JG Jones, on the other hand, is seriously bringing his A game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought this issue had a lot more intriguing points than the first but the pacing seemed really off. There&#8217;s the loooong beginning part where Japanese heroes I don&#8217;t care about lounge around and act cool. And then all of the sudden someone attacks John Stewart and Hal Jordan is arrested. Maybe we could have compressed the first and expanded the 2nd? FC is gaining momentum but it&#8217;s still hit and miss for me. I like some of Morrison&#8217;s work but I do think he&#8217;s a bit overrated. JG Jones, on the other hand, is seriously bringing his A game.</p>
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		<title>By: steviecool</title>
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		<dc:creator>steviecool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Geoff Johns and Morrison&#039;s work - but it&#039;s still bleh since its the deus ex machina New Gods stuff.

It&#039;s got to be hard to push a &quot;Day that Evil Won&quot; after so many recent ones.
Action Comics Annual, where Kryptonians took over everything. 
Booster Gold, which I know will be reverted, but still...
etc.

I guess, for me, it happens a lot more often - so it&#039;s like pitching a &quot;Superman Dies&quot; comic back in the 70&#039;s. You know it won&#039;t last. Just like this won&#039;t be the final... uhm... crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Geoff Johns and Morrison&#8217;s work &#8211; but it&#8217;s still bleh since its the deus ex machina New Gods stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s got to be hard to push a &#8220;Day that Evil Won&#8221; after so many recent ones.<br />
Action Comics Annual, where Kryptonians took over everything.<br />
Booster Gold, which I know will be reverted, but still&#8230;<br />
etc.</p>
<p>I guess, for me, it happens a lot more often &#8211; so it&#8217;s like pitching a &#8220;Superman Dies&#8221; comic back in the 70&#8217;s. You know it won&#8217;t last. Just like this won&#8217;t be the final&#8230; uhm&#8230; crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I hold the opposite position. To give you an idea of where I stand in terms of DC comic books: I think that Geoff Johns is talentless and his Green Lantern has been abyssmal. I detest sentimentality in comic books. I think Grant Morrison is a genius. What Grant Morrison is doing is taking Jack Kirby-ism (The New Gods, the Moebius Chair, Multiverse, Wormhole Boomtubes, bizarre over-the-top superhero concepts like &quot;Most Excellent Superbat&quot;) to the next level within 21st Century cultural contexts. AND I LOVE IT. 

Granted, I generally dislike where ALL of the DC properties are going these days, but I think one can make a case that Grant Morrison knows how to break new ground with tired characters: All Star Superman anyone?

I think what everyone should keep in mind about Final Crisis is that the foundation are Jack Kirby Big Ideas via New Gods mythologies. I think that the DC universe characters are merely tools used to create a modern homage to Jack Kirby type comic books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I hold the opposite position. To give you an idea of where I stand in terms of DC comic books: I think that Geoff Johns is talentless and his Green Lantern has been abyssmal. I detest sentimentality in comic books. I think Grant Morrison is a genius. What Grant Morrison is doing is taking Jack Kirby-ism (The New Gods, the Moebius Chair, Multiverse, Wormhole Boomtubes, bizarre over-the-top superhero concepts like &#8220;Most Excellent Superbat&#8221;) to the next level within 21st Century cultural contexts. AND I LOVE IT. </p>
<p>Granted, I generally dislike where ALL of the DC properties are going these days, but I think one can make a case that Grant Morrison knows how to break new ground with tired characters: All Star Superman anyone?</p>
<p>I think what everyone should keep in mind about Final Crisis is that the foundation are Jack Kirby Big Ideas via New Gods mythologies. I think that the DC universe characters are merely tools used to create a modern homage to Jack Kirby type comic books.</p>
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