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	<title>Comments on: New Warriors #10</title>
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		<title>By: Baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of NW's survival also has to be rate of pay.  I suspect that Fraction gets a higher paycheck than Grevioux so his books have to bring in more money.  I really do believe that The Order got shit canned for the exact same reason newxtwave did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of NW&#8217;s survival also has to be rate of pay.  I suspect that Fraction gets a higher paycheck than Grevioux so his books have to bring in more money.  I really do believe that The Order got shit canned for the exact same reason newxtwave did.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That means nobody was buying it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That means nobody was buying it.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Brother129</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brother129</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand...The Order is being put on hiatus because Matt Fraction wants to leave it for now...whatever that means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand&#8230;The Order is being put on hiatus because Matt Fraction wants to leave it for now&#8230;whatever that means.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think New Warriors sells more than the Order based on recognition factor.

Also, it's so very hard for Marvel and DC to produce a book with all new characters.  

I wonder what the sales were like for the Order trade that just came out.  It seems to me that a lot of new or original series don't stick because the monthly issue model is what drives Marvel and DC.  A lot of original concepts from the big two would probably do much better if there were conceived and produced as graphic novels and released that way.

Alan Grant over at CBR has a very good column called Permanent Damage and he demonstrated the weakness of the comic written for the monthly 22 pager and then collected in trade from, even when things are written "for the trade."

Back on topic, yeah New Warriors suffers from being written for monthly comics with an eye towards the collected edition.  Because of this it never seems to move forward.  Every issue requires the writer to re-present the underlying conflicts and themes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think New Warriors sells more than the Order based on recognition factor.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s so very hard for Marvel and DC to produce a book with all new characters.  </p>
<p>I wonder what the sales were like for the Order trade that just came out.  It seems to me that a lot of new or original series don&#8217;t stick because the monthly issue model is what drives Marvel and DC.  A lot of original concepts from the big two would probably do much better if there were conceived and produced as graphic novels and released that way.</p>
<p>Alan Grant over at CBR has a very good column called Permanent Damage and he demonstrated the weakness of the comic written for the monthly 22 pager and then collected in trade from, even when things are written &#8220;for the trade.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back on topic, yeah New Warriors suffers from being written for monthly comics with an eye towards the collected edition.  Because of this it never seems to move forward.  Every issue requires the writer to re-present the underlying conflicts and themes.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldnt agrre with Josh P. more.

I cant beleive this book is selling well enough to keep it ongoing but Matt Fraction's The Order is going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldnt agrre with Josh P. more.</p>
<p>I cant beleive this book is selling well enough to keep it ongoing but Matt Fraction&#8217;s The Order is going away.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's for books like this that I am glad I don't read individual issues anymore and only pick things up in trade.

The first six issues read better in trade than they came across in your reviews.

My biggest complaint about this book is not knowing who any of the characters are except for Jubes, Jono, Sophia, Angel, Beak and Thrash.  And I only know who they are because they were prominant members of an X-Team at one point or another (except, of course, Thrash).

Who are all these other characters hanging around Murderworld?  They're supposed to be depowered mutants for the most part, but which ones?  I didn't care when what's her named was killed off by the Zodiac in the first arc because I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS!!!

I can't care about a character if I don't even know who they're supposed to be.

Grevioux did a very good job making me care about Sophia again.  And just knowing who Beak, Angel, Jubes and Jono originally were was enough to create a connection.  As far as I'm concerned, every other character on the New Warriors is there simply as potential cannon fodder.

I really would like this book a lot more if the team was better identified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s for books like this that I am glad I don&#8217;t read individual issues anymore and only pick things up in trade.</p>
<p>The first six issues read better in trade than they came across in your reviews.</p>
<p>My biggest complaint about this book is not knowing who any of the characters are except for Jubes, Jono, Sophia, Angel, Beak and Thrash.  And I only know who they are because they were prominant members of an X-Team at one point or another (except, of course, Thrash).</p>
<p>Who are all these other characters hanging around Murderworld?  They&#8217;re supposed to be depowered mutants for the most part, but which ones?  I didn&#8217;t care when what&#8217;s her named was killed off by the Zodiac in the first arc because I DIDN&#8217;T KNOW WHO SHE WAS!!!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t care about a character if I don&#8217;t even know who they&#8217;re supposed to be.</p>
<p>Grevioux did a very good job making me care about Sophia again.  And just knowing who Beak, Angel, Jubes and Jono originally were was enough to create a connection.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, every other character on the New Warriors is there simply as potential cannon fodder.</p>
<p>I really would like this book a lot more if the team was better identified.</p>
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