Comments on: Countdown to Final Crisis #04

By: Salieri

Salieri — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:27:46 +0000

Hank: Maybe because she wiped his memory some time ago, a move which could have resulted in brain damage as it had with Doctor Light? I mean, he found out about it, but still. It’d be like one of Peter Parker’s friends flirting with Mephisto.

By: Hank

Hank — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:46:48 +0000

Saleri, if there’s one thing about Bruce Wayne, it’s that he’s a billionaire “playboy,” so why wouldn’t he flirt with Z? And that’s all Dini’s shown Bruce as doing, flirting. Z’s hinting she might like a more serious relationship, but so far Bruce hasn’t even acknowledged an interest beyond “just friends”

By: Joshua S. Hill

Joshua S. Hill — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:44:18 +0000

Note – “…she was apparently pregnant for 3 panels…” pregnant for 3 panels… DrStrangeCubicle was right, I was referring to the horrible way she was drawn… ack! :D

By: eric

eric — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:46:42 +0000

Well, I love DC, but they have tarnished their reputation with 52 and Countdown to me. I wont be picking up any other weekly for a long long long long long long long time from them. I will wait til it comes out in a trade paper back. I hope they read this because I want them to know this. Thank god Final Crisis is only seven issues. The main reason I am looking forward to the Legion series is George Perez and origianal Legionaires. DC listen now. No more damn weeklies. It is not going well. Also I will never in my life buy anything that Paul Dini has written or is writting. This crap of countdown has turned me off to him completly.

By: DrStrangeCubicle

DrStrangeCubicle — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:28:50 +0000

Unless I really missed something, I think he just meant she was drawn badly and *looked* pregnant.

Although at this point, she might be carrying the virus-ridden demonspawn of Darkseid and Granny Goodness.

By: Rowan

Rowan — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:06:23 +0000

wait is she really pregnant ? do I have to re-read this one cause PREGNANT ? say what ? with what darkseids baby?

By: Salieri

Salieri — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:54:04 +0000

Ugh…Paul Dini is the new Chuck Austen, ruining everything he touches and Mary-Sue-Shoving his wife (Bruce already has a girlfriend, he doesn’t need Zatanna) into the narrative. The man should just be given some title which he can’t damage the DCU with – a new “Batman Adventures” series, or a Harley Quinn spin-off. Contrary to his other work, he does a mean Harley Quinn.

Also: Curses! I was so looking forward to a Red Robin mini. Am I right in surmising that Countdown is one big exercise in demonstrating how much more superior 52 was, and how much better 52’s writers were?

By: Jacin B.

Jacin B. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:55:50 +0000

Hang on. Mary Marvel is pregnant?! When did that happen?

By: Jacin B.

Jacin B. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:52:56 +0000

Now, c’mon. Jason Todd’s always been a tool. That’s why people voted to kill him off in the first place.

By: Joshua S. Hill

Joshua S. Hill — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:28:25 +0000

What confuses me the most is that Todd shouldn’t be this much of a moron, sure… but, even more than that, he’s the one toted as being the next Batman…

By: Mark I.

Mark I. — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:00:39 +0000

Jason Todd is really being douchified in this book. If they’re setting him up for a “surprise” turnaround with an heroic sacrifice in Final Crisis…well I call bulls**t.

By: DrStrangeCubicle

DrStrangeCubicle — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:56:11 +0000

Morrison was talking up a Mary Marvel fight with Supergirl in Final Crisis, so my guess is there’s no reason or logic behind Mary’s return to evil other than the overarching plot of FC demanded it (why they redeemed her, only to ruin one of the few genuinely nice moments of the series is beyond me).

Of course, Mary’s hardly the only character that’s been treated horribly by Countdown (as opposed to 52, which built up Booster, our space heroes like Animal Man and Starfire, and Renee Montoya). Jason Todd comes across as nothing more than an annoying prick, Ray Palmer a coward, Karate Kid exists just to kill off a universe, Una’s killed by rats (deadlier than the Amazonian bee weapon from Amazons Attack!, apparently), etc.