Comments on: The Death of the New Gods #1 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/ We know you love comics. We do, too. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:39:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Russell B http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48949 Russell B Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:48:58 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48949 Why does Orion have a pistol on the cover? Am I missing something? To me, it doesn't look like they miscolored that part of the astro-glider, it looks like a pistol. Does anyone know the story behind that? Am I forgetting something? Why does Orion have a pistol on the cover? Am I missing something? To me, it doesn’t look like they miscolored that part of the astro-glider, it looks like a pistol. Does anyone know the story behind that? Am I forgetting something?

]]> By: Greg http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48693 Greg Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:37:18 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48693 Actually, compared to his art on the old JLA series, this seems like an improvement. Actually, compared to his art on the old JLA series, this seems like an improvement.

]]> By: ykw06 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48456 ykw06 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:22:35 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48456 When was Jimmy Olsen replaced by Tall Marvel, anyway? When was Jimmy Olsen replaced by Tall Marvel, anyway?

]]> By: Stephen Schleicher http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48452 Stephen Schleicher Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:03:02 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48452 Stacy: I don't think anyone is arguing story, art is lacking. Stacy: I don’t think anyone is arguing story, art is lacking.

]]> By: Charro Ninja http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48439 Charro Ninja Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:25:36 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48439 At least, they ain't becoming zombies. Taht will pace Ol' Kirby on his tomb. At least, they ain’t becoming zombies. Taht will pace Ol’ Kirby on his tomb.

]]> By: DrStrangeCubicle http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48385 DrStrangeCubicle Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:16:23 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48385 I bought this with trepidation; I'm not a huge fan of the Fourth World, but I think certain characters can work in the regular DCU context (Barda, Scott, Darkseid as an occasional Big Bad, etc.), and I wasn't really a fan of what I read in this. The art was pretty bad and I came away thinking that I'd much rather they'd have had a Ragnarok-type event, or simply killed off most of the New Gods and kept some of the more viable ones if it was really that big of an issue. I bought this with trepidation; I’m not a huge fan of the Fourth World, but I think certain characters can work in the regular DCU context (Barda, Scott, Darkseid as an occasional Big Bad, etc.), and I wasn’t really a fan of what I read in this. The art was pretty bad and I came away thinking that I’d much rather they’d have had a Ragnarok-type event, or simply killed off most of the New Gods and kept some of the more viable ones if it was really that big of an issue.

]]> By: Stacy B. http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48365 Stacy B. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:08:37 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48365 Starlin = Cosmic End of story. Sure, I can see where the kids that read comics today might not have confidence in Starlin and think that he doesn't deserve it, but they probably don't remember his 70's run on Marvel's CAPTAIN MARVEL, his Adam Warlock work. They weren't around for his groundbreaking cosmic stories in the independant field or the fact that he penned the DEATH IN THE FAMILY story which killed Robin. What about INFINITY GAUNTLET? Or his SILVER SURFER run with Thanos as the main antogonist? His little MYSTERY IN SPACE mini may have disappointed some, but to say that he is not the right person for this story is ludicrous. His stories don't HAVE to have the death of characters, although since THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN MARVEL and his writing the death of Jason Todd/Robin, he has been pigieon holed as such. His COSMIC GUARD stuff is a great, fun read as well. His work has constantly examined the ideas of God and the Universe on a cosmic scale. The man's bread and butter is the cosmic story. The art is Jim Stalin and Matt Banning. No, it may not be perfect anotomically, but is better than the majority of the stuff out there. Matter of fact, the more cosmic he gets the more his art fits. And I read the JIM STARLIN: FERRYMAN OF THE NEW GODS article you mention J'osh. Sorry, but just because he wasn't screaming the praises and talking about what a great story he did does not translate into smug and low enthusiasm. The man is old school. He doesn't have to make a bunch of empty promises to sell his stuff. He has paid his dues. He claimed, in the article, that he felt the Death of the New Gods was a way of putting a conclusion to Kirby's creation. Half homage, half mercy killing. Even though we know that DC will resurrect the names, at least Kirby fans can look at this and say they have an ending. The New Gods have been abused for years and Kirby's vision has been distorted nearly beyond recognition. And, for the record, I still say that it is Infinite Man commiting the murders. The Serifan appearance just enforces it for me. Starlin = Cosmic

End of story. Sure, I can see where the kids that read comics today might not have confidence in Starlin and think that he doesn’t deserve it, but they probably don’t remember his 70’s run on Marvel’s CAPTAIN MARVEL, his Adam Warlock work. They weren’t around for his groundbreaking cosmic stories in the independant field or the fact that he penned the DEATH IN THE FAMILY story which killed Robin. What about INFINITY GAUNTLET? Or his SILVER SURFER run with Thanos as the main antogonist?

His little MYSTERY IN SPACE mini may have disappointed some, but to say that he is not the right person for this story is ludicrous. His stories don’t HAVE to have the death of characters, although since THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN MARVEL and his writing the death of Jason Todd/Robin, he has been pigieon holed as such. His COSMIC GUARD stuff is a great, fun read as well. His work has constantly examined the ideas of God and the Universe on a cosmic scale. The man’s bread and butter is the cosmic story.

The art is Jim Stalin and Matt Banning. No, it may not be perfect anotomically, but is better than the majority of the stuff out there. Matter of fact, the more cosmic he gets the more his art fits.

And I read the JIM STARLIN: FERRYMAN OF THE NEW GODS article you mention J’osh. Sorry, but just because he wasn’t screaming the praises and talking about what a great story he did does not translate into smug and low enthusiasm. The man is old school. He doesn’t have to make a bunch of empty promises to sell his stuff. He has paid his dues. He claimed, in the article, that he felt the Death of the New Gods was a way of putting a conclusion to Kirby’s creation. Half homage, half mercy killing. Even though we know that DC will resurrect the names, at least Kirby fans can look at this and say they have an ending. The New Gods have been abused for years and Kirby’s vision has been distorted nearly beyond recognition.

And, for the record, I still say that it is Infinite Man commiting the murders. The Serifan appearance just enforces it for me.

]]> By: J'osh http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48339 J'osh Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:36:37 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48339 Well he did an interview with Newsarama and he really came across as a jerk about the whole thing. Smug, so his enthusiasm for this project was pretty low. Well he did an interview with Newsarama and he really came across as a jerk about the whole thing. Smug, so his enthusiasm for this project was pretty low.

]]> By: Brad http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48323 Brad Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:11:24 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48323 Glad to see everyone is knocking the art, I like Micheal Turner and I like Ian Chruchill, I understand people have gripes with them but I love the detailed style they do, and would perfer them on a book vs. Starlin any day of the week. Some will disagree, but the art can truly ruin a story for me, and in this is one case where I'm thankful to our spoiler site, as I won't waste my time or money on this issue. Glad to see everyone is knocking the art, I like Micheal Turner and I like Ian Chruchill, I understand people have gripes with them but I love the detailed style they do, and would perfer them on a book vs. Starlin any day of the week.

Some will disagree, but the art can truly ruin a story for me, and in this is one case where I’m thankful to our spoiler site, as I won’t waste my time or money on this issue.

]]> By: James Godwin http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48320 James Godwin Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:43:32 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48320 The one problem with Starlin is that his storeis have to involve the death of characters, even those with great potential. No matter how well his stories begin, you know the inevitable ending. And I have to agree with his art, although a fan of his art in the Warlock (lightning bolt emblem) days, his art does seem rushed and is not at all appealing. The one problem with Starlin is that his storeis have to involve the death of characters, even those with great potential. No matter how well his stories begin, you know the inevitable ending.

And I have to agree with his art, although a fan of his art in the Warlock (lightning bolt emblem) days, his art does seem rushed and is not at all appealing.

]]> By: Matthew Peterson http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48317 Matthew Peterson Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:23:02 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48317 I still don’t think Jim Starlin’s the right man for this massive event. He doesn’t deserve it. With him on board, this should just be considered an Elseworlds event.

Mmm. I have to disagree, in theory. Starlin is one of the guys who could actually pull this off, presuming that he was operating at peak capacity. But here it seems that the quirks of his art have completely overridden the pluses. Even I can’t defend what Jim has done in this issue, seemingly a rush job.

But if anybody can do death and cosmic themes on this scale, I would expect that Starlin can, or at least the Starlin of legend could have…

]]> By: ShaithisXL http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48316 ShaithisXL Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:18:57 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48316 Surprised no one mentioned that there were Monitors on New Genesis and Apocalypse in the big group shots of gods. The New Genesis one was second half of the splash page and the Apocalypse one was first half of the splash page in the middle. Are the Monitors acting like Pariah, harbingers of great doom or are they just curious about events that might effect the Source Wall? Curiouser and Curiouser ShaithisXL (The observant) Surprised no one mentioned that there were Monitors on New Genesis and Apocalypse in the big group shots of gods. The New Genesis one was second half of the splash page and the Apocalypse one was first half of the splash page in the middle.

Are the Monitors acting like Pariah, harbingers of great doom or are they just curious about events that might effect the Source Wall?

Curiouser and Curiouser

ShaithisXL (The observant)

]]> By: Dan H http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48306 Dan H Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:09:35 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48306 First Ralph and Sue were destroyed, and now Scott and Barda. Can there be NO happy couples in the DCU? First Ralph and Sue were destroyed, and now Scott and Barda. Can there be NO happy couples in the DCU?

]]> By: Jerry S. http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48303 Jerry S. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:01:49 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48303 I still don't think Jim Starlin's the right man for this massive event. He doesn't deserve it. With him on board, this should just be considered an Elseworlds event. I still don’t think Jim Starlin’s the right man for this massive event. He doesn’t deserve it. With him on board, this should just be considered an Elseworlds event.

]]> By: Roy http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48298 Roy Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:12:15 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2705.htm/#comment-48298 I concur. I really hate to trash someone's art, since I'm no artist myself, by WOW, I just really don't like the art. That panel in "Parting Shot" is horrible, just horrible. I concur. I really hate to trash someone’s art, since I’m no artist myself, by WOW, I just really don’t like the art. That panel in “Parting Shot” is horrible, just horrible.

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