Comments on: Captain America Returns! http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/ We Know You Love Comics. We Do Too. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:56:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Gin http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-46119 Gin Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:47:17 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-46119 I don't like the effect of the chrome on the "finished" artwork, but the pencil colors look nice. I like the way it looks from behind (but only slightly) and when looking at the pencils the front is okay. Perhaps the biggest peeve I'm having with it is the point. Where it ends is awkward and I can't help thinking that it makes the costume appear even more phallic than the underwear-over-pants approach. "HAY GUYS LOOK HERE!" Hur. I don’t like the effect of the chrome on the “finished” artwork, but the pencil colors look nice. I like the way it looks from behind (but only slightly) and when looking at the pencils the front is okay.

Perhaps the biggest peeve I’m having with it is the point. Where it ends is awkward and I can’t help thinking that it makes the costume appear even more phallic than the underwear-over-pants approach. “HAY GUYS LOOK HERE!”

Hur.

]]> By: wcole01 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-46108 wcole01 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:50:11 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-46108 The gun is fine. Captain America came into this world with a gun, now he's coming into this world with a gun... Again. Sure, he let it go for awhile (50 years or so), but it adds the desired "brutish" effect. WWII was a gritty time, Cap was born as a gritty hero. Welcome to the gritty 21st century! Rubber bullets, wax bullets, real bullets, paint balls... It will be a fine addition. Those of you who don't like it because it isn't very "heroic" are being short-sighted. Cap is fighting crime, and I'm sure he'll continue to uphold the same values and morals that he has always stood by. Bad guys and villians will die. But that's the point, right? Cap protects us from those villians, and sometimes its not pretty. But he does this in the name of justice; in the name of America. The gun is fine. Captain America came into this world with a gun, now he’s coming into this world with a gun… Again. Sure, he let it go for awhile (50 years or so), but it adds the desired “brutish” effect. WWII was a gritty time, Cap was born as a gritty hero. Welcome to the gritty 21st century! Rubber bullets, wax bullets, real bullets, paint balls… It will be a fine addition. Those of you who don’t like it because it isn’t very “heroic” are being short-sighted. Cap is fighting crime, and I’m sure he’ll continue to uphold the same values and morals that he has always stood by. Bad guys and villians will die. But that’s the point, right? Cap protects us from those villians, and sometimes its not pretty. But he does this in the name of justice; in the name of America.

]]> By: BadBad http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45985 BadBad Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:00:08 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45985 It might not be Bucky. It could be that blonde SHIELD agent who volunteered to take up the responsibility a couple of issues ago... Just a thought. Regarding the gun. In all seriousness, if the new Cap is going to have a gun I actually don't think it is fair for Cap to have a gun which shoots bullets. If he is equipped by Stark/SHIELD his sidearm should be the most advanced weapon Stark/SHIELD could make. That would only make sense because the indestructible shield he uses was the most advance piece of technology that 1940's America could make. It might not be Bucky. It could be that blonde SHIELD agent who volunteered to take up the responsibility a couple of issues ago…

Just a thought.

Regarding the gun. In all seriousness, if the new Cap is going to have a gun I actually don’t think it is fair for Cap to have a gun which shoots bullets. If he is equipped by Stark/SHIELD his sidearm should be the most advanced weapon Stark/SHIELD could make. That would only make sense because the indestructible shield he uses was the most advance piece of technology that 1940’s America could make.

]]> By: Randallw http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45968 Randallw Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:29:50 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45968 I realise the purpose of the Ultimate universe is to be more gritty and realistic but I have always thought Ultimate Cap made more sense. In the mainstream universe Cap is a mouthpiece for the Liberal writers (What the US is meant to mean) and a liberal (excuse me if I don't quite have it right, here in Australia Liberal means something else). Ultimate Cap is a Conservative, I gather, and embodies how great the US used to be in his day. I realise the purpose of the Ultimate universe is to be more gritty and realistic but I have always thought Ultimate Cap made more sense. In the mainstream universe Cap is a mouthpiece for the Liberal writers (What the US is meant to mean) and a liberal (excuse me if I don’t quite have it right, here in Australia Liberal means something else). Ultimate Cap is a Conservative, I gather, and embodies how great the US used to be in his day.

]]> By: Brother129 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45834 Brother129 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:38:51 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45834 Agreed with the calm people...let's take a red, white, and blue chill pill on this until January. Even money still says Brubaker and Co. write a damn good story that makes sense of all this. Need I remind people that we're complaining about a comic where the title character hasn't been featured in close to a year. And its still one of the best reads of the month. Agreed with the calm people…let’s take a red, white, and blue chill pill on this until January. Even money still says Brubaker and Co. write a damn good story that makes sense of all this. Need I remind people that we’re complaining about a comic where the title character hasn’t been featured in close to a year. And its still one of the best reads of the month.

]]> By: Stacy B. http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45827 Stacy B. Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:05:14 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45827 Matthew, that black costume that Rogers wore during his time as The Captain is actually my favorite. And I do think that your idea of Bucky failing to live up to Cap is close to the way it will work out, if it is Bucky in the suit. I still kinda wonder if MVP will make some kind of Cap appearance in the future. The greatest thing about this costume is the discussion it has gotten started again regarding Cap. If you like or dislike it, all publicity is good publicity. How many other posts here at Major Spoilers have gotten this many comments in such a short time? Matthew, that black costume that Rogers wore during his time as The Captain is actually my favorite.

And I do think that your idea of Bucky failing to live up to Cap is close to the way it will work out, if it is Bucky in the suit. I still kinda wonder if MVP will make some kind of Cap appearance in the future.

The greatest thing about this costume is the discussion it has gotten started again regarding Cap. If you like or dislike it, all publicity is good publicity.

How many other posts here at Major Spoilers have gotten this many comments in such a short time?

]]> By: TrollCapAmerica http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45818 TrollCapAmerica Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:56:10 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45818 May Joey Quesadila and the rest die a painful death of ass cancer for doing this to Captain America.There is only ONE Superman a Kal-Something from Krypton theres only one Batman a Bruce from Gotham One Spiderman Peter that nerd kid from NYC and there is only ONE Captain America Steve Rogers a guy that perfectly represents my Grandfathers slowly disappearing generation Only way anyone else is acceptable under the mask is if they travel back in time to the 40s and make the new guy punch out Hitler on the first ever appearance.Since Marvel lacks a time machine in their circle jerk lounge where they think about new ways to screw up classic characters [Magic spider with wolverine claws,Thor calling himself "Sentry",Anything X-Men since the 6 month gap of 2000,etc] they should just close up shop now.Hell at LEAST sell the character to DC where Geoff Johns can write the classics from that era with some dignity May Joey Quesadila and the rest die a painful death of ass cancer for doing this to Captain America.There is only ONE Superman a Kal-Something from Krypton theres only one Batman a Bruce from Gotham One Spiderman Peter that nerd kid from NYC and there is only ONE Captain America Steve Rogers a guy that perfectly represents my Grandfathers slowly disappearing generation

Only way anyone else is acceptable under the mask is if they travel back in time to the 40s and make the new guy punch out Hitler on the first ever appearance.Since Marvel lacks a time machine in their circle jerk lounge where they think about new ways to screw up classic characters [Magic spider with wolverine claws,Thor calling himself "Sentry",Anything X-Men since the 6 month gap of 2000,etc] they should just close up shop now.Hell at LEAST sell the character to DC where Geoff Johns can write the classics from that era with some dignity

]]> By: Brent F. http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45810 Brent F. Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:07:05 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45810 Doesn't anyone else find it ridiculous to kill off a classic character because he is too old and out of touch with modern America only to replace him with his former sidekick who isn't much younger and is even more out of touch? Doesn’t anyone else find it ridiculous to kill off a classic character because he is too old and out of touch with modern America only to replace him with his former sidekick who isn’t much younger and is even more out of touch?

]]> By: Matthew Peterson http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45791 Matthew Peterson Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:59:30 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45791 <i>This is Captain America we’re talking about. Their trying to make him into some weired, gun-slinging 90’s guy. It’s almost as if Marvel is trying to make Captain America the Punisher.</i> I think that's <i>exactly</i> what they're doing, but in a more calculated manner. My supposition is that it will be James Buchanan Barnes in this suit, and Bru will be making the obvious point that no matter how Winter Bucky tries, he'll never be Steve Rogers. With any luck, the story will use these points of contention in it's favor. Given how well they've balanced the current storyline (a relatively meaningful look at death in a world where death is essentially meaningless) I'm not really too worried about it. This is Captain America we’re talking about. Their trying to make him into some weired, gun-slinging 90’s guy. It’s almost as if Marvel is trying to make Captain America the Punisher.

I think that’s exactly what they’re doing, but in a more calculated manner. My supposition is that it will be James Buchanan Barnes in this suit, and Bru will be making the obvious point that no matter how Winter Bucky tries, he’ll never be Steve Rogers. With any luck, the story will use these points of contention in it’s favor. Given how well they’ve balanced the current storyline (a relatively meaningful look at death in a world where death is essentially meaningless) I’m not really too worried about it.

]]> By: Tobi http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45776 Tobi Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:44:54 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2596.htm/#comment-45776 Here's the deal. This is Captain America we're talking about. Their trying to make him into some weired, gun-slinging 90's guy. It's almost as if Marvel is trying to make Captain America the Punisher. I'll do something similar to what Stacy B did, I'll list the things that don't make sense. 1. If their trying to give Captain America that commando feel, why does he still have the winds on the side of his head? 2. Since his shield is strapped to his arm, his only attack will be his gun. What happened to good ol' Captain America throwing his shield around as a weapon? 3. Although some people are saying that the chrome look to his chest plate is supposed to simulate extra thick armor, I still think is chrome. Why would Captain America go around with something that would give away his position at night? 4. As said before, why would Captain America wield a gun? Fine, he might use rubber bullets, but even rubber bullets are know to seriously injure or kill people. Doesn't seem to fit the likes of a super-hero. As for the black suit, I would rather have the suit that Matthew Peterson showed us than this stupid, lame, chrome plated commando stuff. Here’s the deal.

This is Captain America we’re talking about. Their trying to make him into some weired, gun-slinging 90’s guy. It’s almost as if Marvel is trying to make Captain America the Punisher.

I’ll do something similar to what Stacy B did, I’ll list the things that don’t make sense.

1. If their trying to give Captain America that commando feel, why does he still have the winds on the side of his head?

2. Since his shield is strapped to his arm, his only attack will be his gun. What happened to good ol’ Captain America throwing his shield around as a weapon?

3. Although some people are saying that the chrome look to his chest plate is supposed to simulate extra thick armor, I still think is chrome. Why would Captain America go around with something that would give away his position at night?

4. As said before, why would Captain America wield a gun? Fine, he might use rubber bullets, but even rubber bullets are know to seriously injure or kill people. Doesn’t seem to fit the likes of a super-hero.

As for the black suit, I would rather have the suit that Matthew Peterson showed us than this stupid, lame, chrome plated commando stuff.

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