Comments on: Retro Review: Fantastic Four #511 (May 2004) http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/ We Know You Love Comics. We Do Too. Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:12:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Baal http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37615 Baal Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:52:27 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37615 I wasn't collecting at the time this came out but the REVIEW made me tear up in one place. Maybe I should track down this run... I wasn’t collecting at the time this came out but the REVIEW made me tear up in one place. Maybe I should track down this run…

]]> By: Brother129 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37608 Brother129 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:48:48 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37608 R.I.P. Mr. 'Ringo. "nuff said. R.I.P. Mr. ‘Ringo. “nuff said.

]]> By: Salieri http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37603 Salieri Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:33:01 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37603 GOD, I miss 'Ringo...I only just found out he was dead, a day ago. The first Spider-Man comic I ever read was illustrated by him... GOD, I miss ‘Ringo…I only just found out he was dead, a day ago. The first Spider-Man comic I ever read was illustrated by him…

]]> By: Stephen Schleicher http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37590 Stephen Schleicher Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:45:58 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37590 Mark: What kind of supreme overlord would I be if I didn't attempt to pay Matthew a little something for his troubles every once in a while. I'm actually the one that makes $0 running this site ;) Cheers Stephen Schleicher Mark: What kind of supreme overlord would I be if I didn’t attempt to pay Matthew a little something for his troubles every once in a while. I’m actually the one that makes $0 running this site ;)

Cheers
Stephen Schleicher

]]> By: Mark I. http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37578 Mark I. Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:36:01 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37578 I don't know about you all, but I'm a lot more comfortable with Marvel God as a short Jewish pencil-and-ink man than as Joe Almighty. As much as the run got knocked, even the critics have to admit it was probably the most memorable run in years. I wish you'd reviewed the Galactus hot dog issue, or maybe done a quick sweep through the run, like "Retro Review: The Year in FF (2004)" or something like that. But of course, meeting Lord Kirby was the real twist of the run. And since you get paid a whopping $0.00 to run this site... I don’t know about you all, but I’m a lot more comfortable with Marvel God as a short Jewish pencil-and-ink man than as Joe Almighty.

As much as the run got knocked, even the critics have to admit it was probably the most memorable run in years. I wish you’d reviewed the Galactus hot dog issue, or maybe done a quick sweep through the run, like “Retro Review: The Year in FF (2004)” or something like that. But of course, meeting Lord Kirby was the real twist of the run.

And since you get paid a whopping $0.00 to run this site…

]]> By: John Simons http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37575 John Simons Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:15:54 +0000 http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/2301.htm/#comment-37575 I'm surpised at some of the FF fans who are so vocal in their dislike of this run, especially taking exception with Waid's take on Doom... personally it has to be up there in my TOP 5 all-time fave FF runs. It was top-of-the-new-comics-pile reading at the time, and if anything my fondness for it is felt more keenly with the recent passing of Ringo. With apologies to Barry Kitson, who I find serviceable-but-unspectacular, I wish it had been Wieringo who rebooted the Legion with Waid... Only two little bits bug me about the Waid/Ringo FF run: One involves the whole "Ovoid mind swap" trick. I always thought when Doom pulled that, it was a true mind switch, which would mean that Ben's mind would be trapped in Doom's body. But in this case Ben's consciousness was merely pushed back into a corner of his own mind, which is why he "died" in that fight. I'm not sure if Waid was making up his own rules, or maybe I just don't understand how that mind switch stuff really works... The other thing that bugs me, and this is no fault of Waid's of course, is how Nick Fury led an army against the FF after they took control of Doom's castle, yet almost immediately thereafter in Secret War, Fury creates his own commando superteam to attack Latveria. Hypocritical much, Nicky? I’m surpised at some of the FF fans who are so vocal in their dislike of this run, especially taking exception with Waid’s take on Doom… personally it has to be up there in my TOP 5 all-time fave FF runs. It was top-of-the-new-comics-pile reading at the time, and if anything my fondness for it is felt more keenly with the recent passing of Ringo.

With apologies to Barry Kitson, who I find serviceable-but-unspectacular, I wish it had been Wieringo who rebooted the Legion with Waid…

Only two little bits bug me about the Waid/Ringo FF run:

One involves the whole “Ovoid mind swap” trick. I always thought when Doom pulled that, it was a true mind switch, which would mean that Ben’s mind would be trapped in Doom’s body. But in this case Ben’s consciousness was merely pushed back into a corner of his own mind, which is why he “died” in that fight. I’m not sure if Waid was making up his own rules, or maybe I just don’t understand how that mind switch stuff really works…

The other thing that bugs me, and this is no fault of Waid’s of course, is how Nick Fury led an army against the FF after they took control of Doom’s castle, yet almost immediately thereafter in Secret War, Fury creates his own commando superteam to attack Latveria. Hypocritical much, Nicky?

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