Comments on: Outsiders - 5 Of A Kind: Thunder/Martian Manhunter

By: nu

nu — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:58:09 +0000

haha. that works too

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:31:38 +0000

Don’t you mean…the goddamned batman?

By: nu

nu — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:00:56 +0000

it would be awesome if the black racer was the real new god killer and he survived. i know that this is not the case though. how can you be sick of “batman is smarter than everyone”? its the truth. batman is a form of the presence here on earth. batman knows all, sees all, and can do anything. come on, he’s the freakin batman.

By: Alec

Alec — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:41:41 +0000

Not sure I agree with your “putting Grayven in the hands of Darkseid is the same thing as putting the Joker in the hands of Arkham Asylum” analogy. Arkham’s goal is to rehabilitate whereas Darkseid’s goals have never been anything less that suspect and self-serving.

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:14:17 +0000

Brother: Grayven�s murdered billions of people and he�s just been restored as a threat to the universe by Thunder. I don�t think you can justify that.

Well, actually… he was killed seconds after arriving on Apokalips (though Batman has no way of knowing that.) And even if he WEREN’T dead, her plan teleported him directly into the hands of Darkseid, a man who is powerful enough to neutralize his evil. Batman’s hypocrisy isn’t a matter of scale to me, it’s a matter of clashing styles. Putting Grayven in the hands of Darkseid is the same thing as putting the Joker in the hands of Arkham Asylum, taking a threat and diverting it temporarily into the hands of someone who can control it.

And frankly, his need for control has cost him three good operatives so far, and it should be noted that both Katana and J’Onn have voiced issues with his management style in the past. I’m still hoping that there’s a chance for Anissa to prove herself, but mostly I’m just sick of the fact that “Batman Is Smarter Than Everyone.” (TM)

By: Brent F.

Brent F. — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:57:17 +0000

Brother: Grayven’s murdered billions of people and he’s just been restored as a threat to the universe by Thunder. I don’t think you can justify that.

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:40:47 +0000

Brent F: Thunder’s rationale/logic behind letting the baddie go can be justified just Batman does in his own mind with the Joker. Thunder was my favorite of the Outsiders ( a tie with Grace). What this boils down to is TRUST. Batman doesn’t trust any of these newbies so far.

By: Baal

Baal — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:21:00 +0000

If I weren’t already planning on buying Batman and the Outsiders this mini would destroy my Outsiders love. The new artist passes the my test though and once Bedard is free of editorial mandate (as much as he can in a Countdown dominated climate) I have great hope for what he can do with any combination of the characters hinted at being members. I’m just wondering what makes this artist so wonderful that giving the choice of letting go him from the title or iriginally scheduled writer Peter Tomasi, a man with a history with DC that includes an amazing revitilization of Batman, The Powers That Be went with Turnbull? I mean, the guy’s that good but Vegas woudl have set the betting odds on Tomasi for sure.

By: Brent F.

Brent F. — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:05:59 +0000

I like Martian Manhunter’s new look. It’s way better than his old Butterbean look.

I also liked this issue because I was never a fan of Thunder. Also, I don’t see the hypocracy in Batman’s decision to axe her from the team. Most of the time when a villain gets away it’s not because Batman wanted them too or caused their escape. Thunder knowingly restored the mind of a powerful alien who has killed BILLIONS and then let him lose. Before her actions he was no longer a threat.

Letting the Joker go is one thing, Batman’s almost always had logical reasons for doing so. But what Thunder did was just stupid.