Comments on: Ultimatum: Just What Ultimate Universe Needed

By: wilson trang

wilson trang — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:25:56 +0000

Truth be told. The whole “world goes to hell” concept isnt even that new or great. If we have forgotten, DC’s WildStorm has already gone down this concept right now. The whole Authority/Gen13/Tranquility/WildCAT thing in a post-Apocalyptic world is currently in play in WildStorm. IF anything, it seems that Marvel is trying to send its current 616 world into a parallel post-apoc world as well. The Ultimate universe ended up turning into its 616 counterpart so marvel decided to send it the drastic other way, much like the WildStorm world.

By: Samson

Samson — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:03:42 +0000

I see what you are trying to say, I really do. But I am not buying anything after this debacle. I got into comics through Ultimate Spider-Man and The Ultimates and Jeph Loeb managed to destroy this entire world Millar and Bendis created. When did the Blob ever act like a cannibal? When did Hank Pym ever put human heads’ on his diet? Why did Hawkeye’s skin color turn from black to white? Why did Thor talk in faux-Chaucer/Shakespearean dialogue? How did Dr. Doom come back? Where in the universe did Valkyrie come from? I realize that the Ultimate Universe was supposed to be more edgy, but does that mean every character has to be a blood lust filled killer?

I am going to probably get the eventual hardcover of Ultimate Avengers if the reviews are good, and I will give Ellis’ Ultimate Armor Wars a try, but that’s it. Shame on you Loeb, for giving us this atrocity, and shame on you Marvel for letting him.

By: ~wyntermute~

~wyntermute~ — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:44:17 +0000

“Jeph Loeb tries to come off as the master writer…that we’re supposed to be able follow all of his plot pieces. After being confused and annoyed to no end with his version of the Ultimates and Ultimatum, nothing made sense until the final issue.”

Wow… This sounds like another comics writer, who completed another mega-event for the other major company not so long ago…. I guess maybe the problem is endemic to “World Changing Events”?

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:04:22 +0000

Jeph Loeb tries to come off as the master writer…that we’re supposed to be able follow all of his plot pieces. After being confused and annoyed to no end with his version of the Ultimates and Ultimatum, nothing made sense until the final issue. Let’s just hope good stories come out of this…

By: Stephen Schleicher

Stephen Schleicher — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:03:55 +0000

Really? Because I could have sworn he got a bullet through the brain when he was addressing the crowd…

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:11 +0000

Cyclops didn’t die check the books

By: Ricco

Ricco — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:22:52 +0000

As long as they don’t pull a “Heroes Reborn” thing it should be a fun ride.

On a side note the return of Doctor Doom was the one thing I just hated, he was last seen about to face the Galactus powered super zombie avengers of Marvel Zombie fame in Ultimate FF then he shows up again at the end of Ultimates v3 with no explaination on his return. Worse, in the Ultimate U he has no internal organs and is made of living metal, yet Ben smashes his skull and blood pours out, did he also become human again when he returned? Some explaination on the whole Doom bit would have been most welcome…

By: morpheus

morpheus — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:02:04 +0000

I have some hope for the new Ultimate titles for no reason, then they don’t have to follow the same rules as the 616 universe. They don’t have to bring characters back they can just create a new character. They don’t have to make the storry fit into the another titles event. With only 3 Ultimate titles the writers should be given lots of freedom to tell stories that they couldn’t tell in other places. Wasn’t that what started The Ultimates?

By: Greg A

Greg A — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:54:45 +0000

I’m wary of these “wiping the slate clean” events in Marvel (and DC’s) side imprints.

The destruction of Pittsburg in the New Universe, the disaster in the 2099 universe and even what’s happening in the Wildstorm Universe were all last ditch efforts to revitalize those lines and really didn’t have any last effects. Both the New Universe and 2099 titles went quietly into the night and I have a feeling the Wildstorm superhero titles aren’t that far behind.

I guess we’ll have a better idea if Ultimatium was a good idea on Wednesday.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:59:00 +0000

Ultimate Hulk Versus Wolverine issue 5 showed me that NOTHING can kill ultimate wolverine. I’m almost sure the rest of his body will regenerate from his arm. They decapitated him and put him in a vacuum and he regenerated! By regenerating he would have a left handed bone claw and a right handed adamantium claw.

By: Stacy B.

Stacy B. — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:03:29 +0000

The final panel of Ultimatum: Spider-Man: Requiem #2 did show Peter Parker waking up in the arms of Captain America…
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Man, I REALLY hope that that was portrayed differently than what first ran through my mind!

I felt that the biggest weakness of the Ultimate Universe was the way that the stories almost always hearkened back to the 616 Universe, but just a little more modern. If they can finally break way from that tendency, and start moving off the map of previous stories, I might be more willing to give it a try. If I want to read the old stories I will just read the old stories.

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:33:04 +0000

I don’t necessarily disagree with your thoughts here, but I don’t know that the whole bomb-throwing rebuild-it-later mentality will automatically result in better stories… Either way, though, at least we won’t have to deal with accusations that the Ultimate titles are just the mainstream Marvel Universe in a blender.

Although, I am amused at the notion that somehow these deaths are any more permanent or real than the thousands of comic book deaths we’ve seen before.

By: vistapa

vistapa — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:43:16 +0000

Same as One more day, i understand why somethings had to change, and even maybe enjoy the new storylines, but the event itself have to be so god awful?