Comments on: New Avengers #32

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:42:06 +0000

How about a Skrull Night Thrasher, who moved �his� team into a position to become a symbol of the problems with superheroes by signing up for a ridiculous reality television show?

See I could really dig that…the whole reality show seemed out of character for every New Warrior except Speedball, but REALLY out of character for Night Thrasher.

By: Pat Morais

Pat Morais — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:21:19 +0000

I honestly have to say that I am digging this whole Skrull-spiracy and how it is slowly but steadily gaining momentum throughout this series. I seriously hope this continues to grow slowly and carefully while still forcing the New Avengers to face whatever other problems seem to arise in the coming issues.
The few nitpicks that people seem to have with this issue could’ve been easily explained away with just a little exposition on Bendis’ part. Such as the plane crash, I’m a hundred percent sure that the whole weather problem ties into all the Ultron business that is happening over in Mighty Avengers, the two titles are supposed to run in conjunction with each other and if the events weren’t related they wouldn’t have gone through the whole explanation of it in the “Previously in New Avengers” section.
As for Dr. Strange’s cloak not working “under these conditions,” I think it all has to do with the fact that he was just run through with a giant frickin’ sword by a crazed, hypnotized deaf ninja girl less than a few hours ago and and he may not have been feeling tip top. All it would have taken is for Strange to say that he was still too weak. If that one little sentence was added, we all wouldn’t be here discussing it.
As for who’s a Skrull or not, I have a feeling that we are all gonna be thrown for a loop. One issue in and everyone is already suspicious that Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Strange, Stark or even Jessica Jones are all Skrullish. But I think in the end it’s gonna turn out that no one any of us suspects will be part of the whole Skrull-stravaganza and I hope that’s how it all turns out because I for one want to end up being surprised when this whole mystery slowly simmers over into a boil and then blows up next year. And here’s me crossing my fingers that neither Hawkeye nor Iron-Fist turn out to be Skrulls.

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:53:17 +0000

Where was the gentle pressure relentlessly applied?

How about a Skrull Night Thrasher, who moved “his” team into a position to become a symbol of the problems with superheroes by signing up for a ridiculous reality television show?

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:51:34 +0000

The skrull homeworld was eaten by Galactus. Neither Clint nor any other humans were present.

Indeed… I was thinking of Avengers Annual #14, in which the Skrulls lost their shape-shifting powers, but it was the Black Knight rather than Hawkeye. But, the point that I was trying and failing to make was that Clint Barton, of those assembled, Hawkeye has had more access to the reports and information regarding the Skrulls.

By: John Simons

John Simons — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:37:07 +0000

Matt,

The skrull homeworld was eaten by Galactus. Neither Clint nor any other humans were present.

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:42:46 +0000

I agree…but I am curious to the Skrulls role in Stamford (if they had one). The SHRA was probably inevitable, but we all know certain events helped it along. Where was the gentle pressure relentlessly applied?

By: Salieri

Salieri — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:22:41 +0000

Brother129, Bendis as said that his Skrull Invasion won’t cancel out other events. Therefore, to have the Old NW as skrulls would devalue both the beginning of CW and also the Return of Night Thrasher - so, no go.

By: Brother129

Brother129 — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:27:23 +0000

It’s too bad the New Warriors that died in Stamford weren’t Skrulls???

By: Salieri

Salieri — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:25:30 +0000

I dunno…it’s just, unless it’s a really spooky character like V or Rorschach, it’s much harder to identify with an expressionless mask than one which lets us see the Face. Note how some of the most popular characters have half-masks or no mask at all - Cap, Supes, Bats, Wonder Woman - while the less populars such as Tony stark cover the whole of the face. Also Note the number of Arch-Villains with face-Covers, like Joker or Red Skull.

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:41:40 +0000

Also, I think that Yu�s attention to detail in his backgrounds is commendable - as is his being among the only Artists that can succesfully give Spidey�s mask more than one expression, something achieved only by the likes of Humberto Ramos, Mark Bagley and John Romita jr.

What you count as a plus, I count as a negative. Masks shouldn’t HAVE expressions… :)

By: Matthew Peterson

Matthew Peterson — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:40:37 +0000

To be honest, I am really enjoying the Skrull thing AND the WWH thing. I wish they weren�t overlapping like this� If they are overlapping� AAAHH! What�s going on?!?!?

Rereading the dialogue, I think we’re to believe that somehow the conspiracy has control of the weather, and they’ve forced the plane down to keep them from delivering the evidence…

Which begs another question: Since the Skrulls have occasionally shown the ability to duplicate superhero abilities with technology, can anyone explain the HUGE changes in Ororo Munroe over the past five years? :)

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:25:03 +0000

I find myself wondering about time lines here. I doubt the crash is Ultron related, since the Ultron attack happened minutes after the formation of the Mighty Avengers, and we have seen the New Avengers dealing with a non-T-1000/Ultron Tony and his Mighty Avengers. It COULD be WWH related, but I hope it isn’t. To be honest, I am really enjoying the Skrull thing AND the WWH thing. I wish they weren’t overlapping like this… If they are overlapping… AAAHH! What’s going on?!?!?

By: Salieri

Salieri — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:09:48 +0000

Also, I think that Yu’s attention to detail in his backgrounds is commendable - as is his being among the only Artists that can succesfully give Spidey’s mask more than one expression, something achieved only by the likes of Humberto Ramos, Mark Bagley and John Romita jr.

By: Salieri

Salieri — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:35:03 +0000

If I’d been writing, I’d have at least sad that Strange’s weakness was due tot he fact that half an hour ago, he’d been stabbed through the Heart. Stabbing = Weakness = Unable To Use Amulet = Cloak Don’t Work.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:25:17 +0000

Gabe, I think that’s the implication of the green eyes, especially in this issue, but I also believe that it’s a red herring in this case, as Jessica Drew has always had green eyes (Stark’s, however, are supposed to be blue). This is actually a pretty cool trick, as the clue to who might be a Skrull is also prone to inaccuracy and vagueries.

I like Mike’s explanation of the plane shorting out. That would make sense as Bendis has said from the beginning of MA, that the two books will be counterparts. I’m not aware of too much crossover so far, but I guess MA is relatively new…. To give Dr. S. a bit of a break, he did get run through by Skrullectra two issues ago (which seems to be less than a day in actual time).

I’ll agree with Matthew that this is a cool, talky issue but also felt a bit off in pacing. It will fit well in the arc as a lull before the next storypoint, but a lot of Wolvie’s points seem obvious now a month after getting the big Skrull reveal. It is fun to see those ideas dawning on all of these characters, though. Give Bendis this: putting a whole bunch of people who suddenly don’t trust each other in a confined room is a great dramatic move.