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	<title>Comments on: 52 – Week 43 – Family Matters</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn't any information that I have found identifying whether Osiris is over 18 or not.  I said fifteen above because it sounds good in the rhythm of the punchline... 

As for violence against teenagers, it's one of the reasons why I hated Alex Ross' covers on JSA.  He drew Courtney as a cute little 15 year old with freckles and braces, and then I open the issues and see her being beaten on by Black Adam and drugged by reckless orderlies in the '50s.  When it's an idealized super-gymnast on the pages, it's one thing, but when it's Jenny Sue Maynard from across the street getting attacked, it's another.

I'm certainly not saying that DC or 52 have &lt;i&gt;suffered&lt;/i&gt; post IC, mind you, just that there are plenty of moments that still classify the universe as a very dangerous place to be.  I believe that the Osiris moment was shown in it's entirety for two reasons:  One, to get across that Amon is Dee Ea Ai  Dee, dead, and the other to show us with horrible finality where the fourth horseman is.  

It delivered on both counts, and I'm looking forward to seeing Sobek get his comeuppance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t any information that I have found identifying whether Osiris is over 18 or not.  I said fifteen above because it sounds good in the rhythm of the punchline&#8230; </p>
<p>As for violence against teenagers, it&#8217;s one of the reasons why I hated Alex Ross&#8217; covers on JSA.  He drew Courtney as a cute little 15 year old with freckles and braces, and then I open the issues and see her being beaten on by Black Adam and drugged by reckless orderlies in the &#8217;50s.  When it&#8217;s an idealized super-gymnast on the pages, it&#8217;s one thing, but when it&#8217;s Jenny Sue Maynard from across the street getting attacked, it&#8217;s another.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly not saying that DC or 52 have <i>suffered</i> post IC, mind you, just that there are plenty of moments that still classify the universe as a very dangerous place to be.  I believe that the Osiris moment was shown in it&#8217;s entirety for two reasons:  One, to get across that Amon is Dee Ea Ai  Dee, dead, and the other to show us with horrible finality where the fourth horseman is.  </p>
<p>It delivered on both counts, and I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing Sobek get his comeuppance.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Schleicher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Schleicher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt:  Has it been established how old Osiris is? He could be 19 for all we know and still be able to get into the Teen Titans.

Steve:  I don't think DC has ever claimed 52 is an all ages comic.  In fact, most of their regular stock is certainly not for the younger set.  That is why they created the Johnny DC imprint to address that.

As for violence against teens, 52 isn't the only title to show that - Kitty Pryde in the X-Men gets her butt handed to her quite frequently, and I believe she is the youngest super hero in either universe.  Then there is the regular whoopings Robin, Legion of Super-heroes, superboy, teen titans, and ultimate spider-man receive (just to name a few).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt:  Has it been established how old Osiris is? He could be 19 for all we know and still be able to get into the Teen Titans.</p>
<p>Steve:  I don&#8217;t think DC has ever claimed 52 is an all ages comic.  In fact, most of their regular stock is certainly not for the younger set.  That is why they created the Johnny DC imprint to address that.</p>
<p>As for violence against teens, 52 isn&#8217;t the only title to show that - Kitty Pryde in the X-Men gets her butt handed to her quite frequently, and I believe she is the youngest super hero in either universe.  Then there is the regular whoopings Robin, Legion of Super-heroes, superboy, teen titans, and ultimate spider-man receive (just to name a few).</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/1040.htm/#comment-6595</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understandable.  Though I'm not certain that 52 has ever been a good all-ages comic.  There have been all sorts of moments (Ralph's impalement, Buddy's death, Lobo ripping off Koriander's top, all the scenes on Oolong Island) that I would say are definitely aimed at the over 18, if not over 21 crowd...

There certainly does seem to be a lot of blood floating around the DC titles these days, doesn't there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understandable.  Though I&#8217;m not certain that 52 has ever been a good all-ages comic.  There have been all sorts of moments (Ralph&#8217;s impalement, Buddy&#8217;s death, Lobo ripping off Koriander&#8217;s top, all the scenes on Oolong Island) that I would say are definitely aimed at the over 18, if not over 21 crowd&#8230;</p>
<p>There certainly does seem to be a lot of blood floating around the DC titles these days, doesn&#8217;t there?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.  The murder and torture of children just doesn't sit well with me in all ages comics.  Heck, I'm not sure I consider it a valid entertainment choice ever.  I've emailed DC to cancel my subscriptions to 52, JSA, and Teen Titans.  Until Johns learns a new trick, I'm done with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.  The murder and torture of children just doesn&#8217;t sit well with me in all ages comics.  Heck, I&#8217;m not sure I consider it a valid entertainment choice ever.  I&#8217;ve emailed DC to cancel my subscriptions to 52, JSA, and Teen Titans.  Until Johns learns a new trick, I&#8217;m done with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/1040.htm/#comment-6578</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeap.  I sure am glad that DC is getting away from the dark and grim stories to show us the kindler, gentler DCU...  with fifteen year olds getting dismembered and eaten on panel and stuff.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeap.  I sure am glad that DC is getting away from the dark and grim stories to show us the kindler, gentler DCU&#8230;  with fifteen year olds getting dismembered and eaten on panel and stuff.  :)</p>
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