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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99603</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, love Morrison and loved Seven Soldiers. I am hoping for the same payoff (and re-reading) from Final Crisis.</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99601</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG...3D House of Beef from SCTV!

Thank you for reminding me of that. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230;3D House of Beef from SCTV!</p>
<p>Thank you for reminding me of that. :P</p>
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		<title>By: ~wyntermute~</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99265</link>
		<dc:creator>~wyntermute~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a friend of mine would say, &#039;tis all good in the hood, blood.  B-)</description>
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		<title>By: RichT</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99239</link>
		<dc:creator>RichT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricco:

Ya got me there.  I read Hush in trade and thought it was just a little thin but not as awful as it was made out to be.

How many would I have to read monthly to catch continuity errors?
What continuity issues am I missing?  

I wouldn&#039;t buy crap just because the continuity was spot on.  That makes no sense to me.  Story is key

It&#039;s like coke vs pepsi or mc donalds vs burger king.. DC vs Marvel.  Fanboy wars.  In the end you read what you like and you eat/drink what you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricco:</p>
<p>Ya got me there.  I read Hush in trade and thought it was just a little thin but not as awful as it was made out to be.</p>
<p>How many would I have to read monthly to catch continuity errors?<br />
What continuity issues am I missing?  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t buy crap just because the continuity was spot on.  That makes no sense to me.  Story is key</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like coke vs pepsi or mc donalds vs burger king.. DC vs Marvel.  Fanboy wars.  In the end you read what you like and you eat/drink what you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricco</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99219</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RichT: if you read as much comics has I do (and I&#039;m guessing most other who post on the site) you&#039;d feel the whole &quot;F continuity&quot; that has been attached to almost everything having to do with Final Crisis or the DCU in general(Marvel events may be crap but they follow contuinity). Which makes this issue that has even MORE continuity problems (and is filled with &quot;who?&quot;, &quot;what? and &quot;WTF?) then the main thing impossible to be enjoyable by the regular readers.

And as my post 5 spots above your&#039;s prooves I got the whole monitor getting cast out thing, but it adds background story to something that really didn&#039;t need it.

But you enjoy it and that&#039;s great! Heck, someone had to. I loved Batman: Hush, were no one else seemed to. How does the saying goes? When it comes to tastes and colors there are no rules... or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RichT: if you read as much comics has I do (and I&#8217;m guessing most other who post on the site) you&#8217;d feel the whole &#8220;F continuity&#8221; that has been attached to almost everything having to do with Final Crisis or the DCU in general(Marvel events may be crap but they follow contuinity). Which makes this issue that has even MORE continuity problems (and is filled with &#8220;who?&#8221;, &#8220;what? and &#8220;WTF?) then the main thing impossible to be enjoyable by the regular readers.</p>
<p>And as my post 5 spots above your&#8217;s prooves I got the whole monitor getting cast out thing, but it adds background story to something that really didn&#8217;t need it.</p>
<p>But you enjoy it and that&#8217;s great! Heck, someone had to. I loved Batman: Hush, were no one else seemed to. How does the saying goes? When it comes to tastes and colors there are no rules&#8230; or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: RichT</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99202</link>
		<dc:creator>RichT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No edit button, the statement below is the edited version of the fifth sentence that I wrote above.

This was turely my point in bringing up our education level and that my sons are reading and enjoying the series and tie-ins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No edit button, the statement below is the edited version of the fifth sentence that I wrote above.</p>
<p>This was turely my point in bringing up our education level and that my sons are reading and enjoying the series and tie-ins.</p>
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		<title>By: RichT</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99201</link>
		<dc:creator>RichT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~wyntermute~ the B. A. thing was not a personal shot.  I don&#039;t know you and would not use a post to take personal shots on people.  Just a little bit of humor. Anyone, regardless of education is in Grant Morrison&#039;s audience.  He doesn&#039;t write them just for the college educated.  This was turely my point in bringing up that my sons are reading and enjoying the series and tie-ins. 
 
You are correct that we are all entitled to our opinions.  That is why we post, so we can express our opinion. This series has generated a wide range of opinions and if one finds a statement that they don&#039;t agree with then some may be compelled to counter it by stating theirs as I did with mine here.  

My statement of incredulity over people missing the stuff in FC#1 dealing with Nix, was me expressing my frustration and not ment to  insult those that missed it.  If you or anyone else takes it as an insult that is your opinion of my presentation and you are entitled to it but again that was not my intention.  

I suggest to everyone who has invested money and time in this event to re-read issues 1-6 before #7 comes out.  Heck if you have the tie-in&#039;s I would read submit, resist, SB1 and SB2 before #7 comes out too.  This series demands multiple reads, which to me (my opinion)  isn&#039;t a bad thing.  I feel that I am getting my monies worth with every re-read I find something new or just a clarification of something that happened and might not have understood the first time.   

Again no personal shot to anyone just an expression of an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>~wyntermute~ the B. A. thing was not a personal shot.  I don&#8217;t know you and would not use a post to take personal shots on people.  Just a little bit of humor. Anyone, regardless of education is in Grant Morrison&#8217;s audience.  He doesn&#8217;t write them just for the college educated.  This was turely my point in bringing up that my sons are reading and enjoying the series and tie-ins. </p>
<p>You are correct that we are all entitled to our opinions.  That is why we post, so we can express our opinion. This series has generated a wide range of opinions and if one finds a statement that they don&#8217;t agree with then some may be compelled to counter it by stating theirs as I did with mine here.  </p>
<p>My statement of incredulity over people missing the stuff in FC#1 dealing with Nix, was me expressing my frustration and not ment to  insult those that missed it.  If you or anyone else takes it as an insult that is your opinion of my presentation and you are entitled to it but again that was not my intention.  </p>
<p>I suggest to everyone who has invested money and time in this event to re-read issues 1-6 before #7 comes out.  Heck if you have the tie-in&#8217;s I would read submit, resist, SB1 and SB2 before #7 comes out too.  This series demands multiple reads, which to me (my opinion)  isn&#8217;t a bad thing.  I feel that I am getting my monies worth with every re-read I find something new or just a clarification of something that happened and might not have understood the first time.   </p>
<p>Again no personal shot to anyone just an expression of an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: ~wyntermute~</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99189</link>
		<dc:creator>~wyntermute~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously hope that &quot;B.A.&quot; thing was not a personal shot.  I dunno, maybe I&#039;m just being sensitive, but you could have explained your educational background without citing mine.  *shrug*  Meh.  I am glad you are enjoying this, and so are your kids.  Just remember that not everybody is the same, and we are _all_ entitled to our opinions.  What you see as &quot;great and entertaining&quot; some of us do not.  As the expression goes, &quot;your mileage may vary&quot;.  After all, &quot;I can&#039;t understand why Hollywood blockbusters make money&quot;, but that&#039;s just my opinion and I am entitled to voice it without being shouted down as a moron, no?  Again, you may find it entertaining, but we are not all you.  So, like, don&#039;t get all &quot;How did anyone miss [whatever]?  WTF is wrong with you?&quot;  It borders on insulting and/or demeaning.  :)   You too are entitled to your opinion, but there are better ways to state it than the one you seem to have adopted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously hope that &#8220;B.A.&#8221; thing was not a personal shot.  I dunno, maybe I&#8217;m just being sensitive, but you could have explained your educational background without citing mine.  *shrug*  Meh.  I am glad you are enjoying this, and so are your kids.  Just remember that not everybody is the same, and we are _all_ entitled to our opinions.  What you see as &#8220;great and entertaining&#8221; some of us do not.  As the expression goes, &#8220;your mileage may vary&#8221;.  After all, &#8220;I can&#8217;t understand why Hollywood blockbusters make money&#8221;, but that&#8217;s just my opinion and I am entitled to voice it without being shouted down as a moron, no?  Again, you may find it entertaining, but we are not all you.  So, like, don&#8217;t get all &#8220;How did anyone miss [whatever]?  WTF is wrong with you?&#8221;  It borders on insulting and/or demeaning.  :)   You too are entitled to your opinion, but there are better ways to state it than the one you seem to have adopted.</p>
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		<title>By: RichT</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-99156</link>
		<dc:creator>RichT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I am so surprised by this review and the comments that followed it...

This was a great book.  

How did anyone miss back in Final Crisis proper why Nix was framed and removed as a Monitor?  Did he not see Omaga talking to someone informing them that he had and that things were in motion?  

This issue answered the plot threads opened in the 1st issue and some that are going on in FC.  It also helps set up issue #7 of FC.  Nice work I thought.  The ART was great!  I love Mahnke&#039;s ART!

I don&#039;t have a B.A. in English and Psychology (just one in Finance and international business relations) and have been able to follow FC and FC: SB just fine.  In fact my 15 and 17 year old sons are following it without a hitch and loving it.  They are new to comic books; they started collecting this past spring when we discovered an LCS in our area (Joe&#039;s comics in Geneseo, NY).  If they didn&#039;t know a character they consult the DC Universe encyclopedia or Wikipedia.  Neither was interested in Secret Invasion both looked at in but found that it lacked what interests them.   

For the fist 3 issues of FC we spiraled down emotionally and hit rock bottom with #4 like we were supposed to.  Issue #5 saw the first real lights of hope and #6 saw the climactic battle and dramatic wounding (or semi-death, look up Omega Sanction on Wiki if you don&#039;t know what I am talking about) of a legendary Hero.  This is a real crisis on the level of COIE, which got me into really collecting comics.  This and FC have been very entertaining reads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I am so surprised by this review and the comments that followed it&#8230;</p>
<p>This was a great book.  </p>
<p>How did anyone miss back in Final Crisis proper why Nix was framed and removed as a Monitor?  Did he not see Omaga talking to someone informing them that he had and that things were in motion?  </p>
<p>This issue answered the plot threads opened in the 1st issue and some that are going on in FC.  It also helps set up issue #7 of FC.  Nice work I thought.  The ART was great!  I love Mahnke&#8217;s ART!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a B.A. in English and Psychology (just one in Finance and international business relations) and have been able to follow FC and FC: SB just fine.  In fact my 15 and 17 year old sons are following it without a hitch and loving it.  They are new to comic books; they started collecting this past spring when we discovered an LCS in our area (Joe&#8217;s comics in Geneseo, NY).  If they didn&#8217;t know a character they consult the DC Universe encyclopedia or Wikipedia.  Neither was interested in Secret Invasion both looked at in but found that it lacked what interests them.   </p>
<p>For the fist 3 issues of FC we spiraled down emotionally and hit rock bottom with #4 like we were supposed to.  Issue #5 saw the first real lights of hope and #6 saw the climactic battle and dramatic wounding (or semi-death, look up Omega Sanction on Wiki if you don&#8217;t know what I am talking about) of a legendary Hero.  This is a real crisis on the level of COIE, which got me into really collecting comics.  This and FC have been very entertaining reads!</p>
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		<title>By: ~wyntermute~</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98853</link>
		<dc:creator>~wyntermute~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And regardless of what GM fans and apologists say about the series, I agree with you in that it should be fun, not some college thesis that requires a complete encyclopedia knowledge of philosophy and the DCU.&quot;

DING!  You win a cookie.  I have a B.A. in English and Psychology (I&#039;m not trying to brag, but rather say that I&#039;m &quot;his audience&quot;), and if I wanted to use it, I would pick up some heavily ponderous tome with few illustrations and fantastic amounts of symbolism and symbology and symbiosis and all sorts of words starting with &quot;sym-&quot;.  BUT I WANT FUN WHEN I READ MY COMICS!!!!  Some things CAN be smart and fun, but it is a tricky balance.  G-Mo seems to lean too heavily on all his &quot;eccentric background knowledge&quot;, and expects us to go &quot;ooooh!  ain&#039;t he one o&#039; dem smert fellas!&quot;.  Sorry G-Mo.  I put down my dollars for &quot;entertainment&quot;.  I already have a massive student loan that I devoted to &quot;education&quot;.  

P.S.:  Countdown Arena hurt my very soul, that&#039;s how bad I thought it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And regardless of what GM fans and apologists say about the series, I agree with you in that it should be fun, not some college thesis that requires a complete encyclopedia knowledge of philosophy and the DCU.&#8221;</p>
<p>DING!  You win a cookie.  I have a B.A. in English and Psychology (I&#8217;m not trying to brag, but rather say that I&#8217;m &#8220;his audience&#8221;), and if I wanted to use it, I would pick up some heavily ponderous tome with few illustrations and fantastic amounts of symbolism and symbology and symbiosis and all sorts of words starting with &#8220;sym-&#8221;.  BUT I WANT FUN WHEN I READ MY COMICS!!!!  Some things CAN be smart and fun, but it is a tricky balance.  G-Mo seems to lean too heavily on all his &#8220;eccentric background knowledge&#8221;, and expects us to go &#8220;ooooh!  ain&#8217;t he one o&#8217; dem smert fellas!&#8221;.  Sorry G-Mo.  I put down my dollars for &#8220;entertainment&#8221;.  I already have a massive student loan that I devoted to &#8220;education&#8221;.  </p>
<p>P.S.:  Countdown Arena hurt my very soul, that&#8217;s how bad I thought it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Graciela</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98847</link>
		<dc:creator>Graciela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the first issue of SB and after this review and countless of confused threads on the DC boards, I am staying far away from issue 2. I hated the 3-D effects from the first issue and as much as I don&#039;t like FC proper and find it confusing, it isn&#039;t the massive acid trip that SB is. I bought it because people kept telling me that it was a real tie-in like Submit and Resist. But this far into the series, I have to say that it seems like all the tie-ins have nothing to do with FC proper because the events in them are never addressed (millions of OMACs activated, so where are they?). Not in any compelling way.

And regardless of what GM fans and apologists say about the series, I agree with you in that it should be fun, not some college thesis that requires a complete encyclopedia knowledge of philosophy and the DCU. Maybe GM wants to change the way comics are written the way Moore and Miller did, but I think a good number of people go to comics because it&#039;s smart AND fun. Maybe those apologists get off on feeling smarter than everyone else but who wants to go into  James Joyce territory when dealing with an alien from Krypton and the world going to heck with a few words and mathematical symbols? Oh yes, and VAMPIRES!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the first issue of SB and after this review and countless of confused threads on the DC boards, I am staying far away from issue 2. I hated the 3-D effects from the first issue and as much as I don&#8217;t like FC proper and find it confusing, it isn&#8217;t the massive acid trip that SB is. I bought it because people kept telling me that it was a real tie-in like Submit and Resist. But this far into the series, I have to say that it seems like all the tie-ins have nothing to do with FC proper because the events in them are never addressed (millions of OMACs activated, so where are they?). Not in any compelling way.</p>
<p>And regardless of what GM fans and apologists say about the series, I agree with you in that it should be fun, not some college thesis that requires a complete encyclopedia knowledge of philosophy and the DCU. Maybe GM wants to change the way comics are written the way Moore and Miller did, but I think a good number of people go to comics because it&#8217;s smart AND fun. Maybe those apologists get off on feeling smarter than everyone else but who wants to go into  James Joyce territory when dealing with an alien from Krypton and the world going to heck with a few words and mathematical symbols? Oh yes, and VAMPIRES!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98842</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A waste of money if you were looking for a real Final Crisis tie-in. Agree with the review that Morrison was trying waaaay too hard with this one. Was this story just a way to take Supes off the table during Final Crisis (so others could step up/get the spotlight)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A waste of money if you were looking for a real Final Crisis tie-in. Agree with the review that Morrison was trying waaaay too hard with this one. Was this story just a way to take Supes off the table during Final Crisis (so others could step up/get the spotlight)?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98837</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....  I really don&#039;t understand the apparent embracing of the Screw Continuity concept by DC.  I still have some vague hope that this and Final Crisis will have some point to it and I&#039;ll be able to ooooh/ahhhhh like a Wheel of Fortune audience, but...yeah.  It&#039;s not going to happen, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.  I really don&#8217;t understand the apparent embracing of the Screw Continuity concept by DC.  I still have some vague hope that this and Final Crisis will have some point to it and I&#8217;ll be able to ooooh/ahhhhh like a Wheel of Fortune audience, but&#8230;yeah.  It&#8217;s not going to happen, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ricco</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98834</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst part is that it DOES link to Final Crisis (not too much thank God), the monitor with Metron was cast out because the evil monitor saw him as a threat. So at least that is finally explained... otherwhise it looked like a bad acid trip.

I liked arena if only for the Bruce Wayne Green Lantern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part is that it DOES link to Final Crisis (not too much thank God), the monitor with Metron was cast out because the evil monitor saw him as a threat. So at least that is finally explained&#8230; otherwhise it looked like a bad acid trip.</p>
<p>I liked arena if only for the Bruce Wayne Green Lantern.</p>
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		<title>By: Randallw</title>
		<link>http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/10244.htm/#comment-98808</link>
		<dc:creator>Randallw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually got Arena. It was the series that gave me a lesson that just because I started to get an interesting sounding series didn&#039;t mean I had to keep getting it. I realised after it finished though and I&#039;d sell the damn things if I thought anyone had the slightest interest in having them.

Now I&#039;ve been getting Final Crisis and the other day my box had part 1 of this 3D extravaganza. I had no idea about it but my friend behind the counter pointed out &#039;look it&#039;s great the Dr Manhattan expy is a drug addict&#039;. Well it also had Uberman so why not I thought. I take my comics home, I don&#039;t read them much until I have sat down comfortably, and went through them. The 3D stuff was different I&#039;ll admit, my nephew told me to take off the funny glasses as I&#039;m the only family member beside him who doesn&#039;t wear any, but once I&#039;d read it I thought &#039;what a piece of crap&#039;. I was wondering if it was worth bothering with the second issue. Thanks for the review, I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually got Arena. It was the series that gave me a lesson that just because I started to get an interesting sounding series didn&#8217;t mean I had to keep getting it. I realised after it finished though and I&#8217;d sell the damn things if I thought anyone had the slightest interest in having them.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve been getting Final Crisis and the other day my box had part 1 of this 3D extravaganza. I had no idea about it but my friend behind the counter pointed out &#8216;look it&#8217;s great the Dr Manhattan expy is a drug addict&#8217;. Well it also had Uberman so why not I thought. I take my comics home, I don&#8217;t read them much until I have sat down comfortably, and went through them. The 3D stuff was different I&#8217;ll admit, my nephew told me to take off the funny glasses as I&#8217;m the only family member beside him who doesn&#8217;t wear any, but once I&#8217;d read it I thought &#8216;what a piece of crap&#8217;. I was wondering if it was worth bothering with the second issue. Thanks for the review, I won&#8217;t.</p>
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